Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Suggested enhancements :

1. Hosting - Allow me (non combatant) to deploy dojo anywhere, set rewards, and invite eligible combatants by name/corp/alliance/standing/random.

2. Rewards - Allow the reward to range from physical items, to contracts, to isk, to aurum/plex, to medals

3. Location - Allow dojo to be deployed in null sec, low sec, hi sec, wormhole, dead space - with location info/effects visible to combatants.

4. Arena markers - Allow force field like arena behavior. Either start both ships in the middle and eject them as if they have no password. Or give them two force fields to sit in.

5. Timers / Rounds - Allow timers/rounds to be enforce by game mechanics.

6. Configurable Winning Conditions - Allow setting winning condititions - hull damage/out of ammo/out of capacitor/ ship destroyed/surrender.

7. Allow Streaming - via twitch.

8. Allow obstacle deployment - Allow non combatants x minutes to deploy mobile structures as obstacles

9. Dojo browser - browses for dojos to join

10. Dojo rating system - allow players to rate Dojos, rating shown in dojo browser/search

11. Sponsorship system - allow players to sponsor combatants, via adding rewards to the pool.

12. Ladder system - or ranking system , with seasons,

look up definition of gimmicky and that will answer your first two questions

where are you trying to go with the second question?

i was referring to the kind of players who always cry about the meta-game and think everyone should fight honorably. the truth is in the sand box all that matters is what you can and are willing to do and what you cant and are unwilling to do. and yes, if dojo's become a thing, players will bling their ships knowing there is no risk of outside intervention.

yeah im playing EVE, the harsh sandbox where non-consensual, unbridled PvP is the norm. its why i play.

your the one advocating a change in direction here.

I'm not the one that implied your dojo experience (and mechanical skills) won't be that helpful for the rest of eve friendo.

It's okay now we both agree on that.



But it's gimmicky only in your opinion, it's not objectively gimmicky.

The truth is you are dropping a buzzword without explaining because you dislike consensual pvp. Disliking consensual pvp is fine, but you have to remember that this is a sandbox and your way to play is not the only way to play.

You understand that ships will explode? It's not without risk since ships will literally explode.

You are implying that non-consensual pvp is the norm, there is no norm this is a sandbox, people mining aren't worse than people ganking there is no norm when it comes to a sandbox.

I would bet you my wallet if CCP went and made a graph of what people do in eve, non-consensual pvp wouldn't be a majority, hell you can check zkillboard and see that a majority of kills are between 2 (or more) sides wanting to fight.

Not only that but there is no change in direction, CCP isn't removing any of this.

Adding options (from a need) != changing direction.

Since this is exactly what a player suggesting this idea would get...

WoW arenas are that way -->

your talking gimmicky as in player behavior, im talking gimmicky as in game mechanics. theres a difference and it matters.

the whole idea of dojos is to control the risk you expose yourself to. If your in a station i know exactly where you are and where you will appear from and im an advocate for making cloaks findable. If im hunting you and your flying in space duelling i should be able to come over and help the other side or just outright shoot your ship from under you.

FYI im not in sov warfare nor big fleet fights. though i have hot dropped a couple of times (and apparently CCP are looking at changing that)

no one is talking about balance. its the concept of being uninterruptable i dislike. that guarantee of no third parties, back stabbing or foul play that makes eve what it is. The notion that you can be out doing your thing and i cannot reach out and grab you.

the idea of dueling im fine with. the idea of trying to have an honourable fight im fine with. its the point at which nothing dishonorable can happen that im disagreeing with.

i prefer an EVE without such guarantees. its really is why i play.

It would appear that in EVE, the only valid playstyles are "Ganker", "Gatecamper" and "F1 Monkey".

Other playstyles are only allowed to exist because they can be used as a source of targets for the above. If a particular playstyle cannot be fed upon by one of these three valid playstyles, it must be purged from EVE.

Right, guys? /s

This is where im coming from yeah. unless this allows players to create 2v2's and larger without the time consuming cross duelling then id rather not have.

if the duel is created at a safe, how many people are going to deliberately probe you down to attack you? its not going to be every Tom, **** and Harry. It will only be the people who are really looking to target you. and that to me is good gameplay.



more like anything that doesnt allow anyone at anytime to attack you for any reason.

Would make sense if we could check for :

- implants

- pimped modules

- boundary violations

- OGB links

- neut logi alts

And being able to do this easily, I don't see why I have to gimp my gameplay and add a lot of unnecessary steps just because you don't like the idea and won't use it.

There is no unbalance issue with dojos, the eve risk vs reward philosophy is still applied here.

again, i dont have an issue with the balance implications nor any equipment restrictions/checks (like a fw acc-gate-ish). just the can't be attacked by anyone at anytime for any reason implications.

make em probable, warpable. even make anyone interrupting go suspect upon entering, lose sec status, whatever. just take away that peace of mind that you have to deal with only what is in front of you.



have you read the EVE FAQ? or even my sig?