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Prototype: Dojos

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Kat Ayclism
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#181 - 2014-09-25 14:33:28 UTC
Also wow, some of you are freaking illiterates. Nowhere does it say it'll be implemented on TQ. Nowhere is it even mentioned as anything but a cool DUALITY toy that could possibly SIMPLIFY TOURNAMENTS and practices.

As in- it's largely an inhouse tool that Veritas (who is leaving CCP) is leaving to be expanded on so we maybe don't have the cringefest of bad and delays that were seen during the AT.

STFU and read the damn post with your brain turned on before you go spouting off this moronic whining about "killin muh peeveepees." It's not coming to your ******* pvp, it's not coming to your ******* TQ, shut up.
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#182 - 2014-09-25 14:36:34 UTC
Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters? P

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#183 - 2014-09-25 14:36:35 UTC
Kat Ayclism wrote:
Also wow, some of you are freaking illiterates. Nowhere does it say it'll be implemented on TQ. Nowhere is it even mentioned as anything but a cool DUALITY toy that could possibly SIMPLIFY TOURNAMENTS and practices.

As in- it's largely an inhouse tool that Veritas (who is leaving CCP) is leaving to be expanded on so we maybe don't have the cringefest of bad and delays that were seen during the AT.

STFU and read the damn post with your brain turned on before you go spouting off this moronic whining about "killin muh peeveepees." It's not coming to your ******* pvp, it's not coming to your ******* TQ, shut up.


It if stays on Duality I have no objection.
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#184 - 2014-09-25 14:39:33 UTC
Aiyshimin wrote:
Good things about EVE:

+ open world, unstructured full loot PVP

Bad things about EVE:

- all the rest

This prototype violates the core of the game. It would seriously be better to instance hisec missions than develop this any further.



Good things about EVE:

- fights have consequences (aka "losses")

Bad things about EVE:

- forum whiners (aka "there's only one playstyle and that's how I play!oneeleven!")

I don't see dojos breaking "has consequences"-rule. If I understand it correctly, the ships/mods used within a dojo will be destroyed for real.

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Kristoffon Ellecon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#185 - 2014-09-25 14:45:17 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
CCP Goliath wrote:
Precision Zero wrote:
Where is the dislike button?


I think it starts to display once you've actually tried the feature Big smile


it doesn't matter how good dojos are, it really shouldn't be in eve to begin with.

the premise is dislikable and no amount of "awesome features" will change that, i'd wager.
note: this is sort of the opposite of burner missions, good premise with poor implimentation. this is a poor premise that's probably going to be introduced well... the irony.

I disagree with you and I insist everyone be forced to use this feature whether they like it or not!
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#186 - 2014-09-25 14:46:40 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


It if stays on Duality I have no objection.


Not empty quoting.

However we also have a company that equates Soon™ to Never™ and often times blatantly ignore things until they come to a head like....Somer's RMT, Incarna, TOS/EULA clarification....or game mechanics like drones that have to be uber-abused to receive a fix.

So getting a little jittery at the thought of instancing in EvE is understandable.

In our little sandbox, we are the "instances."

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Le Monkey Face
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#187 - 2014-09-25 14:47:13 UTC
YES YES YES CCP THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, don't listen to the edgy "muh non-consensual pvp" posters, they are a minority; the AT proved that there is a place for esport and competitive pvp in EVEBig smileBig smileBig smile

I know a lot of school friends that tried eve and got bored to roam to either get gatecamped, blobbed , etc it takes a lot of time to find "good fights" especially when you're a new player you have to follow the boring blob or get destroyed, that's why player retention is so low.

This could bring a lot of new players to eve, and remember that eve is a sandbox there is no "one way only" to play.


Great idea CCP this could revitalize eve.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#188 - 2014-09-25 14:50:06 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
...PvP Matchmaking...


Thank you Veritas, a solid +1 for this concept.

A lot of folk, like me, simply dont have the time or desire to spend hours looking for pew, only to get blobbed in the end.

Cant wait for you to deploy this to live so I can get my pew fix easily.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#189 - 2014-09-25 14:50:35 UTC
So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#190 - 2014-09-25 14:52:21 UTC
dexington wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
Have you ever wanted a little pewpew but didn’t have the time to find a fight, or even fit a ship?


is this really the crowd you think should be rewarded?, do you really think sugar coated bullshit pvp is going to add anything to the sandbox?


screw the sandbox, its going to add to CCP financial statement.
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#191 - 2014-09-25 14:52:31 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
There's something inherently novel about submitting prototype code on a design that's quite clearly going to be controversial, and then go post about it here to create a bit of forum drama, on your second last day at CCP. Scorched Earth all the way!

Man I'm going to miss you and your Cowboy ways.


The real question is, what will he announce tomorrow? EvilEvil

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#192 - 2014-09-25 14:53:11 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
dexington wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
Have you ever wanted a little pewpew but didn’t have the time to find a fight, or even fit a ship?


is this really the crowd you think should be rewarded?, do you really think sugar coated bullshit pvp is going to add anything to the sandbox?


screw the sandbox, its going to add to CCP financial statement.



No it won't.
Bamboozlement
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#193 - 2014-09-25 14:54:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to.


Nice logical fallacy, just like people don't run sites in lowsec because they can run them in high sec right? Rofl, nice tears. BearBearBlink

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Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#194 - 2014-09-25 14:54:59 UTC
Awesome initiative.

Personally I feel that if this was developed and expanded upon in a good way it would be a strong reason towards reactivating in the game.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#195 - 2014-09-25 14:55:26 UTC
Turelus wrote:
Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters? P



this is actually a good question but mostly because i would like to have a carrier or a dread brawl with a few of my friends

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2014-09-25 14:55:38 UTC
mynnna wrote:

Oooooooh SNAP



Anyone opposed to this is pretty much dumb, sorry. This is the most eve-like implementation of "structured fights" that you can possibly get, and it's awesome. There's simply no room for any other opinion.


no its not awesome and nothing about it is "eve-like". if it was "eve-like" i could scan out the combatants and warp to them.


Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
#197 - 2014-09-25 14:55:44 UTC
Turelus wrote:
Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters? P


Yes, for the entire 5 minutes.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#198 - 2014-09-25 14:56:38 UTC
Bamboozlement wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to.


Nice logical fallacy, just like people don't run sites in lowsec because they can run them in high sec right? Rofl, nice tears. BearBearBlink


I have had this move pulled on me before and it was disastrous to that game. I do not want the same to happen here.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#199 - 2014-09-25 14:57:29 UTC
First safe bubble of e-honor, next magic bullets and opt-in pvp switch.

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#200 - 2014-09-25 14:57:51 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Edward Olmops wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:

This do not matter. The possibility of non-consensual pvp ANYTIME in any space in new eden is a CORE principle. This idea violates that core principle.


I have perfectly no idea what is your point.
Do you want a lifetime guarantee that you may gank/hotdrop anything anywhere ?
Seriously, I don't get it.

Especially, because with those Dojos you actually could get the fight anytime... instead of posting in a forum about how hard it is to get fights?!?!


I'm a pve player, I don't care about fights. I care about the 'spirit' of this game I've played for the last 7 going on 8 years. This idea violates a core principle, it does no harm or potential harm to me as an EVE player what-so-ever.


Please tell me how you can pvp my jita trade alt. Also, please pvp my main who is currently logged out.

Then you can come back and talk to me about your made up CORE principles.

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