Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I see a lot of assumptions and all I think is that they can be debunked quite quickly.



People already struggle finding good battles right now due to the enormous size and player distribution. It's either fighting against nullbears, WH people or the few central FW systems with link alts. Giving them an arena to PVP doesn't make any difference, especially not when you keep in mind that the size of EVE as a whole is too large to support the playerbase equally.



And that still remains outside of the Dojo. You still have to find targets but rather than having people bail from PVP because of the sad state it's in with link-alts being required to remotely get any competitive in FW space, we now have a way to prepare them for solo battles to get their feet wet before losing tons of ships with minimal improvement because they get outperformed by veterans. We literally would have a way to help new players get more experienced without instantly having that dread over their heads that they won't make a dent anyways.


I do not always have the time to go on a three hour roam with possibly 3-4 targets that are going to be fightable.
Sure, I could do other things then but this is the issue that relates to the immense spread of players across the server. We're not having enough players per system to get an abundance of targets, in a relatively fair battle.

I know that the excitement of a roam is still there, but what happens when your Dojo offers no incentives (as said before)? It only allows tournaments and/or new players/duelling players to practice their stuff. Yup, I could go to SiSi but seeing that server is a test server (and thus not guaranteed to be stable for any tournament effort) along with toons not properly being added in time to SiSi, this may be a potential solution.

One note: It feels as if you force people on three hour roams, when they may have one hour to play. That's like being in SOV Null, having time for 1-2 sites and then being yelled at because you're not on a CTA that lasts 4-6 hours. It's ridiculous.

Will the winners of Dojo fights get bonus skill points and State Issue Ravens as reward for their victory?

It doesn't justify an attempt to make things worse than they already are.


You missed the whole point. Dojos are going to completely substitute the pvp environment for many players, not to be an addition.

Tell me: would you continue doing as many roamings as you do now to get pvp in this game should dojos become a thing on TQ?


If you need three hours to find 3-4 fightable targets - you are doing it wrong. You need to improve. This is the difference between a good and a very good player. I don't consider myself a very good player fyi, but I see a healthy challenge in becoming better at finding targets. But throw some dojos on TQ - and there is no need to improve anymore. This kills competition, not enhances it.

Oh, i thought you were gone.

Ever planning to backport LoL matchmaking into eve ?

So here I am, going out for a roam in FW space. I do not have a link-alt available to get boosts so about 75% of the fights are badly in the opponent's favor. So I am sitting there with skills that need some work, fighting someone who has a massive advantage and you then tell me it's my fault I can't find fightable targets without just throwing ISK at it and pray?

It's a problem that puts a lot of new players off.

I hate with passion "Slippery slope" argument. You can say this about anything.

But more on topic:idea sound AWESOME, but honestly never on TQ. Maybe on sisi but never on TQ. It would make easier organizing any player driven tournaments but risks are too great imho.

Dear CCP,

Please consider that I have tried this and think it is a terrible idea. Solo roaming is hard enough without creating "safe" instances for people to partake in risk free pvp. This reduces player interaction without actually adding anything to the game. Like placing incursions in highsec this encourages a play style that will leave many of us upset. The answer to fights are hard to find is not to make them even harder to find.

These will also be abused the hell out of to create safe pockets for afk, well you can't call them cloakers because they won't have to cloak, cyno alts, scouts, supers, and links.

For newer players like those of us in BNI it also reduces our only weapon against the SP gap.....numbers.

I hope these never make them onto tranquility.

Agreed.

Spectators could be a target for interuption and thus bind the dojo into the sandbox without disrupting the Pewdokas.
Make Stands that are scannable and warpable. Protected zone would then be more like a POS shield with shooting allowed inside.

How to make the spectators sit in their ships around the Dojo? Make them enforce the boundary violation

On the otherhand: Deadspace usage by players could have such potential. Player built acceleration gates .....

It is my opinion that this system needs to be implemented on Chaos posthaste; all the devs should definitely spend time per-week in it, in the hopes that the next dev roam won't be so mindlessly slaughtered.

Now you are talking crazy talk, let them get it the hate out of their systems before they try it or actually . . .you know. . . think.

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