Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The stuff that's supposed to be for small groups to harass big guys with aka targetable structure services, siphon units etc hurt the larger entities by making them laugh too hard at best... There needs to be a way for a small group to sow terror in the minds of the larger entities and make them think oh s#$% that wasn't expected or what we needed to happen right about now.

Think the kinds of stuff terrorist do in rl and apply it to eve.... we should have strategic class tools to balance super cap fleets to sow terror in the hearts of our enemies and those we want to enact revenge upon.

How about some kind of chemical/biological,nanobot attack that cripples a station for a period of time denying access to it or even damaging certain assets like bpo me/te or destroying the quality of R64 moons with some kind of environmental attack or disabling/disrupting a jump bridge network for a period of time with some kind of gravity well that causes those using to be spewed out in random systems across a given area or even an attack on a star that makes a system extremely toxic to those attempting to use it for a period of time kinda like the negitive effects incursions have but player orcastrated such as a super nova event that the residents can stop in time if they act fast enough but if they fail will have to suffer from for say a week or so ...something along those lines should be possible and even plausible since i remember reading a while back how EVE's engine can be used to do stuff like that but that you hadn't really thought of any good things to use it for.... I'm sure there's plenty of other terror type things people could come up with that would cripple the null bears in some fashion and would be useful to small groups trying to create a beach head in null sec and having the capacity to pull off such attacks would give them a bargaining position as well kinda like north korea vs the usa by using nukes to prevent an invasion. Sure they could crush them if they wanted to but at what cost? That's the mentality i'm talking about here.

it could be balanced by making it expensive and have it scale say a disabled jump net work around 5 bill, a station attack 10-20 bill and a system wide attack 35-40 bill or have it correlate with the costs of supers at say half their general price. You could even make it difficult to pull off but extremely effective at making null groups go oh sheet is not good day today if carried out successfully just think of all the knives in the back the null bears will use on each other by employing low level corps to do their under handed business because they fear someone doing it to them first...... could be lots o fun think of the meta muhahhahhahahahahaaaa some of us just want to watch them burn is all and we should have the tools to make it happen with out bringing 2000 of our friends in on it and enacting 18hr tidi bashes. CCP is always talking about how a few individuals having an impact on the community at large and I can think of no better way to make it happen.

If you give us the tools we will set the universe on fire......

Anger is good I'll take that... people make mistakes and error in judgement when their responding emotionally.

What if it was a station that housed a large chunk of an alliances assets or resources and the result of the attack was a loss of said resources or a random % of them? A significant loss of moon goo or large stockpile of other resources due to an attack would be effective at harassing a large alliance I imagine or at least those responsible for replacing their losses and providing their infrastructure.

What if a system wide attack of some kind would deal environmental damage strong enough to kill industry classed ships and smaller for say 24-48 hrs or even disable/damage the shields on star bases for a limited time by making the star go nova. What about an attack that disabled or hindered star bases that were running manufacturing or research jobs effectively locking them down until the home team cleaned up the mess over 1-4 days slowing the production of supers and research with out the need of grinding the ehp on the towers themselves.

Also don't limit the attacks to null sec there should be incentive for those in high sec to be worried and willing to participate in protecting and preventing an attack on their home stations / systems... just limit the scope and types of attacks that could be carried out there. So say jita could be shut down but not for so long that its going to completely destroy the market in one fell swoop.

Brain storming here to come up with stuff that could actually be useful/purposeful. Essentially it would need to be a counter to the massive blobs, super fleets, centralized markets without directly destroying them. It would include strategic assets such as stations, starbases, and local system mechanics that only sov holding alliances and npc empires own and operate with limited high sec impact to prevent or marginalize exploitation. The only reason I think high sec should be at risk is so that null bears couldn't hide their assets in high sec as they do with 3rd party haulers now.

Again the mentality is supposed to reflect a small nation using nuclear arms to deter or severely hinder a super power in the event of an invasion or aggression. How cool would it be to see a large block taking a system only to have the defenders detonate their star and destroying a large chunk of their own and enemies support fleet leaving the caps to duke it out in a now cyno jammed system where everyone is taking damage with no where to run. Ahhh the possibilities. Again nothing concrete here just brain storming.

Any tools you add for small groups to hit large ones will be used by large groups much more effectivly against small groups.

If we let that hold us back, then nothing will ever get done.

But at least people will have more options.

Exactly as of right now the only people who have the positions to do this kind of damage to any alliance are those in their leadership who have access to alliance assets and structures. This would do far more to hurt large alliances than the small guys they would harass with said mechanics. Simply because there's more small guys who would be out to get big guys than there would be big guys out to get small guys and the small guys would have options to enact revenge or to bring the big guys down to their level rather than tickling their feet and only making them laugh harder.

Plenty can be done, just not this one.

collison physics ! thats what I want

400mm plated rifters with a **** ton of explosives in their cargo holds.

imagine jita undock.

Eve would be so beautiful

I kinda like this idea , implanting a system wide effect like wormhole effects for 1 day or 2

Takes 2 hours to anchor( can be killed while anchoring ) and once its anchored it cant be destroyed but it will die after some time

Maybe add some extreem effects like droping shield resistance for all ships to 0% , while multiplying arrmor resist to all ships by 1.5 and vice versa

sure it will hurt all sides but then they have to adapt and use a diffrent doctrine

You mean a single catalyst or maybe a mere cruiser can now suicide gank every ship in the game, ie. 1 man suicide ganks against freighters/haulers and there would be nothing the freighter/hauler pilot could do against you? Sure, that would be "so beautiful".

By the way: Terrorism already exists in the form of suicide ganking, hotdrops and PVP in general.