Wormholes

copy pasting the same thing using your alts doesn't help anything

I'm trying to start something. The last one already isn't my alt.

I don't like this change and neither do 95%+ of wormholers.
Copy paste it if you agree, lets see the count.

It'll be "oh, it's Hard Knocks, everyone afk because we can't take that fight."

Your mistake here is that there's some level of risk in jumping a capital through a wormhole in the proposed system. You're wrong. Jumping a capital into any decent group's home system whilst they have any players online would mean that you are going to lose that capital. Not possibly, not maybe, but definitely.

The time it takes for you to get an interceptor to a ping to let the dread warp back to a hole is enough time for them to secure hole control, which is all it takes for your dread to be dead in the water.

We all have ping or alert systems, and "cap tackled" gets a response. Generally fast, generally overwhelming and generally expensive for you.

The proposed system is not "providing risk", it's ensuring that the only people that use dreadnoughts to collapse holes away from fights that they can't take because they lack numbers are now unable to do so. The end result of that change isn't "more risk" it's "less content", because people will just AFK and POS spin all day when they roll into a bigger fish until they do have the much larger gang that is now required to safely collapse.

And god forbid that you try to take a nullsec fight with your 15 T3s and a Triage Archon against their 80 man cruiser gang. You're now guranteed to have that Archon dropped on, because it's 30km from safety and in their space. Whereas before you had some chance of backing away from the nullsec/losec cyno (which brings more caps than you ever could get through a wormhole) when they decided to try to blap you, you're now racing against time: you have to complete the fight and get your Archon back into the hole before they type "Archon tackled 30km from wormhole in [system]" in their intel channel.

This system benefits larger groups of people over smaller groups of people for no apparent reason, whether it's nullsec over wormsec, or larger wormsec entities over smaller wormsec entities.

What wormholes need isn't changes to fundamental mechanics that are, for the most part, fine. We need reasons for smaller groups to get involved, a consistent difficulty ladder from C1-C6 that reflects in the income earnt, maybe even buffs to C6 income so that they're worth the extra hassle. We need small-mid sized fish to swim alongside the groups that can consistently bring 30-40+ ships to every fight.

Wormspace needs incentives to live in it, not barriers to surviving in it.

It seems like things have gotten a bit out of hand in this thread.

I can fully appreciated that some of you are unhappy with the changes that have gone out.

If you feel strongly about these changes, then give civil and concise feedback in the Hyperion feedback thread, and I'll point the development team in that direction.

Please don't make personal attacks on eachother, or employees of CCP, otherwise you'll lose the ability to post on the forums, and neither us nor you want it to come to that.

While you may see our development staff as avatars on a forum, please be aware that there are in fact people behind these faces, and abuse of CCP and our volunteers will not be tolerated.

"Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change."

Fair enough, you've had your (100+ combined pages) of feedback, do what you must...