Wormholes

There is no getting away from the fact that in the vast majority of cases this will add nothing to the game (and make things more of a drag for no real reason) and only change the dynamic in fringe cases and largely in those fringe cases come down heavier on the smaller entities than the larger ones - which is something wormhole space has mostly managed to avoid and if people want that they can always go to nullsec.

That doesn't indiscriminately justify and validate any change though.

What seems to be constantly missed is that by far the larger amount of time people collapse wormholes without anyone actually there to take advantage of this mechanic and that also the larger number of people don't just collapse wormholes randomly but after previously mapping and scouting the chain or so soon after opening the wormhole that most entities wouldn't be able to react in time anyway to take advantage of the mechanic either (unless your really unlucky and they have probes out and a fleet formed up already).

You can't force people to use a capital/orca to collapse a wormhole in the face of a danger they have scouted and know they don't have a chance of taking on. The people who most often will fall foul of this mechanic are those who are careless or inexperienced and they will usually end up a killmail anyhow without this mechanic.

I've yet to see well constructed reasoning why the fringe case justifies implementing the mechanic taking precedent over the several orders of magnitude more normal case, until that it looks to me like CCP has decided they want it to be this way and **** the people who have made the game what it is so far.

EDIT: Right now I don't understand the reasoning behind it and it flies in the face of everything I've come to know about wormhole space - but by all means if there is a rational explanation that I've overlooked I'm open to being pointed to it.

This is not about threats in any way, I have had interest in playing a game where one builds creates, fights, wins and loses, and the result is the balance of ones own abilities, and that is balanced against those you meet.

I have Zero interest in playing a game where the result is decided by random chance or luck.
I am buggered if I am going to spend months buying a capital and CCP luck decides whether it lives or dies. And then Grinding back up again.
So I no longer have a goal.

Guess what happens next.

Not anger, not rage, just complete indifference to something I no longer care for.
For me EVE no longer has a reason to exist, it has carelessly cast aside what made it worthwhile.

If you really think that gutting the core concept of eve, where our actions and those actions of those you meet are what decide our experience, is a positive direction for EVE you are welcome to continue.

But when It becomes Russian roulette in space, they can keep it.

Yes we put up with all the crap of disconnects and bad programming, but when the game is designed to randomly kill you, for "fun"
I have absolutely NO DESIRE to put up with that.

I will not play the Victim for anyone, If I am killed, GF, not "nothing anyone could do, just CCP luck against you."

If that is the game they want, that is fine, their choice, but it is not something I want anything whatsoever to do with.

Whether it is free or paid for, it is not something I will spend any more time on.
In a year or two, I will look at where it has gone, and maybe if they have learned anything, who knows. But they seem to have forgotten what made it worth playing, have fun and good luck

I had a lot of good times, and it was fun while it lasted.

the game forces you to take a risk

how you manage that risk is up to you, but the game doesn't kill you: other players who exploited that you took a risk (perhaps foolishly) and managed it poorly do

How many more pages on this thread of people saying this change is dumb and we don't like it do we need to make to get this not to happen?

sounds like you'll have to put your thinking caps on and figure out the best fleet comps to jump into a hostile defense taking into account this mechanic

you're basically furious someone moved your cheese: yes, the maze has changed and you will have to reconsider what fleet comp you use in attacking. nullsec does this like monthly, it's not too hard and many people (perhaps you, perhaps not) will learn to adapt

The only cure for that is starvation of cash.

To be fair there only screwing up the best part of EVE in my eyes. Nobody wants to roll holes, its a pain in the arse at best, and at worst, it just wont be done.

How about they apply this change to jump bridges as well, think you would be whistling a different tune then.

fine by me

jump bridges already spout you out 5km from the module, you have to burn back to jump back through

also if the aperture is wide enough, there's a chance that you'd land inside the JB pos which would be hilarious