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Fuel blocks! (and CCP Soundwaves wildlife safety advice)

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CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#21 - 2011-12-09 15:13:54 UTC
spookydonut wrote:
I bet you still haven't updated the starbase API either.


Confirming this. But that's because the new and old system are the same system with different type requirements so there should not be any need to.

However, I'll make sure this is true. There's a fancy post-it here saying I should and post-its are law!

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
spookydonut
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-12-09 15:19:59 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
spookydonut wrote:
I bet you still haven't updated the starbase API either.


Confirming this. But that's because the new and old system are the same system with different type requirements so there should not be any need to.

However, I'll make sure this is true. There's a fancy post-it here saying I should and post-its are law!


If it's not working a reasonable time before the change-over you're just going to make the logistics people of eve hate you even more, if hating you more was even possible.
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#23 - 2011-12-09 15:29:25 UTC
Any chance you could stick a big freakin' throw switch on the side of the pos that we can simply toggle between fuel chunks or PI chunks when ready? It would be kind fo cool to have this big audible "CLICK" as we switch the POS over to fuel chunks, then see the switch break off and float away into the depths of space...

It would give us control of the switch in a more pleasant way, with the 24th of Jan being a deadline, switch or die.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#24 - 2011-12-09 15:30:57 UTC
The API works fine for blocks.

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spookydonut
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2011-12-09 15:34:09 UTC
Two step wrote:
The API works fine for blocks.


I'm really truly genuinely surprised.
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-12-09 15:34:59 UTC
While I would have preferred a switch before the holidays, if stuff isn't ready on CCP side (or they are not comfortable for hitting the big red butan without weeks of advance warning), this is okay. Would've been nice if this date would have been given already when fuelblock BPOs were seeded, but I guess we'll live.
Ichtarus
Doomheim
#27 - 2011-12-09 15:35:23 UTC
Goon's tears are so sweet ! Cool
Rastuasi
Crunchy Crunchy
#28 - 2011-12-09 15:35:28 UTC
Salpun wrote:
As a wh dweller who got a bpo into the wh and started makeing blocks in an anticipated switch over in 2 weeks from blue print release your pushing it back for a month just put a big kink in my plans. Will now have to pull in more fuel to carry us over to the new date. Would have been nice to have this news even 24 hours agoWhat?

Could time left be changed to must be refilled on in anticipation of the change P


This exactly, kinda put my corp short on isk cause of this change >.>
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2011-12-09 15:35:29 UTC
spookydonut wrote:
Two step wrote:
The API works fine for blocks.


I'm really truly genuinely surprised.


Well, all API-using applications that monitor towers will still need updates...
oogs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-12-09 15:40:33 UTC
Well, this sucks. You're basically screwing over anyone that was proactive and aimed for the original estimate (a couple weeks after the BPOs became available). Sure you can't make it run in a hybrid mode?
Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#31 - 2011-12-09 15:49:08 UTC
mmm 2 weeks from the 29th of november is the 24th of jan? i dont know what made me think it would be the 13th of december, that would have just been stupid

OMG when can i get a pic here
DaiTengu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2011-12-09 15:49:46 UTC
I've been out of the logistics loop for awhile, since every time I got within 100km of a POS I've wanted to suck the end of a .45.

However, IIRC, CCP mentioned they were going to do a hybrid system so a POS could consume both regular fuel and fuel blocks for a limited time period.

Today, talking to my masochistic friends that currently do logistics, I find out this isn't the case. I was wondering what all the fuss was, and now I know.


CCP is handling this in the worst possible way. At least set up some sort of hybrid system so people can convert to fuel blocks easily. You're being absolutely ******* ******** about this.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#33 - 2011-12-09 15:53:45 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Yeah, having it late January means everyone is also back at the office, ready to remedy if needed. The programmers responsible for the change have promised to not make any bugs, so we should be in the clear!


CCP Soundwave wrote:

The programmers responsible for the change have promised to not make any bugs, so we should be in the clear!



CCP Soundwave wrote:

programmers responsible have promised to not make any bugs


CCP Soundwave wrote:

programmers promised


Shocked
RUH-ROH

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Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#34 - 2011-12-09 15:56:50 UTC
Salpun wrote:
As a wh dweller who got a bpo into the wh and started makeing blocks in an anticipated switch over in 2 weeks from blue print release your pushing it back for a month just put a big kink in my plans. Will now have to pull in more fuel to carry us over to the new date. Would have been nice to have this news even 24 hours agoWhat?

Could time left be changed to must be refilled on in anticipation of the change P


lol, same here. We are just too squared away.

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Bruno Chowson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2011-12-09 16:07:14 UTC
Just don't get why they chose the 24th of January.

Why not the 10th? That would only put those who prepared for the transition out for 3-ish weeks rather than 5-6.
Iniquita
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-12-09 16:07:44 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Starbase structures begin consuming fuel blocks exclusively on January 24th. Hopefully this timeline will allow you to build up a sizable stock of blocks, without ruining your Christmas. I’m sure your family will appreciate you not bringing your laptop to the Christmas dinner to start production jobs. Please keep in mind that on the day of the switch, POSs will ONLY consume fuel blocks and all the old items will no longer keep the starbase going.

On a slightly related note, here is a quick piece of wildlife advice that could save you or a loved one: If bitten by a snake, avoid attempting to suck out the poison from the wound, like seen in movies. You’ll remove insignificant quantities of poison, while transferring bacteria to the wound and subjecting yourself to the risk of getting poisoned. Instead, call for help and arrange transport to the nearest hospital emergency room. Like with bears, the safest bet is staying away from poisonous snakes in the first place.

We might be able to sneak a few more changes in, but for now, this is the timeframe for fuel blocks. Enjoy.



I guess this means you have time to work out some sort of DB script to calculate the effective run time of the fuel in the towers and replace that with fuel blocks now?

Seriously you guys said it'd be ~2 weeks from crucible and my logistics guys have been scrambling to make blocks and get them into towers. This is really annoying news.
Madner Kami
Durendal Ascending
#37 - 2011-12-09 16:11:29 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Please keep in mind that on the day of the switch, POSs will ONLY consume fuel blocks and all the old items will no longer keep the starbase going.


Good news. Is there a time we can use fuel blocks before this or is the switch over going to be that abrupt?


Going to be abrupt. Hopefully the long leadtime will make it less painful.


Actually the long lead time will make it more painfull :/
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#38 - 2011-12-09 16:12:08 UTC
weeks = months in CCP time, 'heh'.
Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2011-12-09 16:15:07 UTC
Two step wrote:
, after you guys said 2 weeks after the patch the switch would happen. It is especially bad for folks in w-space, most of whom have been converting their fuel to blocks for the last week.


+1
oogs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2011-12-09 16:16:53 UTC
Wibla wrote:
weeks = months in CCP time, 'heh'.



Sounds like Time Dilation is working!