Wormholes

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everything was already said.

Here's what's been bugging me through all of this. I'm a guy rolling a c5/c6 wh. Once my cap is in warp to the wh - I have at least one capital ship all in. I can't unwarp. So my minimum risk is 1 capital ship.

Cut to the other side of the wh!

The cap is inbound I have several choices.

1. Jump in and tackle the cap ship
a. He finishes the roll and I'm in his system fighting him
b. He doesn't finish the roll but engages me because he has no other choice (if he doesn't roll I can disengage and jump to safety at will).

2. Fear jumping in and tackling him.
a. Complain he rolled the wh risk free (even though he laid a cap out for you to engage)
b. Complain on the wh forums that I got blue balled or whatever by someone rolling away from me (because you didn't go all in)

So, overall the rolling folks always risk at least one capital ship minimum when rolling. Saying they do it risk free is always false. You always have the option to go all in.

Currently the ganking group has a much smaller risk once the capital is in warp. They get the choice to engage or not engage, so once the rolling cap is in warp they are in the driver's seat. All I really see this change doing is giving the ability to gank the cap in home system to the party that is ganking the rollers.

It doesn't add risk to the rolling folks, they already committed their cap either way. It does take away risk from the gankers for now they can take said cap in the safety of their own wh. They no longer need to exercise the all in option. Overall this just reduces the risk of the ganking party.

Even if it's 2 large notable pvp entities - the mass limitations favor the guy on the gank side. All you need are numbers great enough to overcome the mass of ships a wh rolling can support.

Tackle the rolling cap on the jump in. Drop 2 carriers, 2 dreads and some support and there is zero chance for the roller to survive. There isn't enough mass on the wh to even bring in a rescue fleet. Even going all in isn't enough against some groups - there just isn't enough mass on a wh for that.

This doesn't make it riskier - it makes rolling certain corps/alliances wh impossible (assuming you desire some sort of chance at surviving/winning). Spawning out of jump range guarantees a duck shoot for a small number of large groups.


Editorial rhetoric: I moved to wh space to ensure I played eve in a place where 'blob' wasn't a key to success. Anything out of jump range ensures 'blob' is the key to success.

you know that farmers need to roll for content?

What more bothers me in this case, even as a farmer, is the exploit possiblity of K162 spawn.

You're an idiot. If you want to know who is buying plex's at that price look to incursion runners. They have to keep their 10+ isboxed vindy's running somehow...

You're not a very smart person are you?

regardless, if that's the best you can do then I feel kinda silly wasting all that effort. no one else seems to be taking you seriously.

actually you might not be bright enough to figure it out on your own so ill throw you a bone, we were in rag for less than a month. heck for probably less than two weeks considering we went nomading soon as we got there. dont you feel stupid for not checking the facts properly.

Will all the WH changes go live at the same time ? Because when you try to fix a problem, moving all variables at once doesn't help reading cause and effects of each new feature.

I assure you that in the wormhole community, whether we agree with him or not, Sith1s opinions are taken seriously.

Your opinions are .. wait, who are you again? Perhaps you shouldn't start forum wars here with people you don't know.

Why ? Why are his opinions taken seriously?
I usually dont post in this section of the forum, but i havent seen anything worthwhile posted by that guy yet, perhaps you could link something of his that is an example ?

Respect is not earned in our world by what you say on the forums, but rather by what you do on the field. I am not defending Sith1s posts, he is more than capable of that himself. To use your words, I'm merely throwing you a bone. You won't gain respect for your opinions by attacking the established members.

sure, they do. but they really dont need to.
id say at least 90% of site ganks are due to poeple rolling in directly.

if they really want to they can still crit with cheap BSs, or they can move to hole with c1/2 statics that are very easily critted with BSs/small ships.
in any case, if you think these changes will see a decrease in farming or that they will still use caps to crit their holes then you are delusional.