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Wormhole town hall 16th August 22.00 UTC

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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#21 - 2014-08-11 02:10:09 UTC
I'll be there to try and organize a dota game while people try to have a discussion and to make fun of nerds))

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Wild Geese.
#22 - 2014-08-11 06:13:25 UTC
Would love to be there.... Pitty about the time though. :(

So +1 in spirit... Although I think I make my position on the changes clear in the forum threads.

The changes are AWESOME!

Director

Sefem Velox

INGAME CHANNEL: Sefem Public

Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Wild Geese.
#23 - 2014-08-11 06:33:03 UTC
Andiedeath wrote:
Would love to be there.... Pitty about the time though. :(

So +1 in spirit... Although I think I make my position on the changes clear in the forum threads.

The changes are AWESOME!


And sorry 'AWESOME' being...

1. Chains will stay open longer, so blue balls will occur less often.
2. Those that do roll wormholes will have support fleets and not just be one guy with a dread/orca and webbing loki alt. Which again equals more potential for fights. Again less blue balls... hopefully...

Yes I concede that population in wormholes will drop in the first instance although I see more PVP organisations entering for a new experience. This will in turn rebalance and even increase population from where it is now.

I know people don't like the status-quo being changed... But these changes AS A WHOLE should give wormhole space the shake up it needs to reinvigorate it.

If I remember correctly the changes to FW were suppose to kill it... But I'll say for at least the Caldari/Gallente side of the warzone I have only seen an increase in PVP. Yes there is more bears in stabbed ships that run away but there is also more people willing to fight which is fantastic. (unfortunately not the battleship fights of old... but fights none the less).

Director

Sefem Velox

INGAME CHANNEL: Sefem Public

ISK Lord
Negative Density
#24 - 2014-08-11 06:46:45 UTC
Good job organizing this Corbexx. I'll be there.

Can we confirm which Devs will be attending and the format of the discussion?
Marox Calendale
Xynodyne
The Initiative.
#25 - 2014-08-11 08:07:48 UTC
Mal Nina wrote:
questions for the devs since I believe it is important to understand the data sets they are working with and what might be the problems they are seeing.

Is WH space population growing or shrinking and where is it doing it. (are large entities getting larger? What type of space are the players in)

Is PVP (deaths) increasing or decreasing in WH space? who is dying and who is responsible for the killing. Is the killing ganks, or "real PVP" and how much are the WH corps killing things in null and low as apposed to wh space... (are we the only corp hitting the NS community much harder than the WH community since we can find targets there?)

How much isk is generated in WH space and by what type of entities in what types of WH space. Is it considered excessive, is it out of line with same age players in other types of space?

The charts they have given are a start and they show C6 space as being the main NPC killing area by far. But they lacked a lot of detail in the demographics of the entities doing what they do... Those player kills could all be big fish killing the little fish.

It would just be good to fully understand why the devs think there needs to be mechanical changes and what they hope to gain from them. As I read between the lines it appears they see a disparity between isk generation and isk destruction in WH space. Yet isk destruction may be a problem if WH space is finding itself shrinking in population and what population remains is getting consolidated into fewer WHs. That is a different problem than the one that is generating the current round of changes.


Thanks for hosting this conference call, hope I can be on line... now I may have to load up teamspeak. :)

According to this, can we have a definition of what scale means "large Wormhole Entities" and what would be small?
Chesterfield Fancypantz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-08-11 08:09:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Chesterfield Fancypantz
Frankly, this needs to be limited to CEO's and 2nd in commands or representatives.

Its going to be an absolute and utter shitshow if its anyone and everyone.

CEO's need to collect the opinions of their pilots and bring it to the table at this meeting, otherwise its going to be a complete donkey show.

IMHO.
Winthorp
#27 - 2014-08-11 09:23:54 UTC
Chesterfield Fancypantz wrote:
Frankly, this needs to be limited to CEO's and 2nd in commands or representatives.

Its going to be an absolute and utter shitshow if its anyone and everyone.

CEO's need to collect the opinions of their pilots and bring it to the table at this meeting, otherwise its going to be a complete donkey show.

IMHO.


Yeah i tend to lean towards this myself and why i said will it be structured as these seem to have a history of being a few random loud neckbeard guys that talk over everyone including the hosts.
Meytal
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-08-11 12:23:18 UTC
If it's moderated, there won't be much of an issue.
(Please use a moderated channel?)
corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-08-11 12:29:43 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Chesterfield Fancypantz wrote:
Frankly, this needs to be limited to CEO's and 2nd in commands or representatives.

Its going to be an absolute and utter shitshow if its anyone and everyone.

CEO's need to collect the opinions of their pilots and bring it to the table at this meeting, otherwise its going to be a complete donkey show.

IMHO.


Yeah i tend to lean towards this myself and why i said will it be structured as these seem to have a history of being a few random loud neckbeard guys that talk over everyone including the hosts.


Yeah we can sort a moderated channel so we wont have to listen to everyone shout. I personally don't want to limit it tojust ceo or diplos rather everyone was allowed to come.

We'll have a channel set up where people can ask question in for the town hall. and I'll have a couple people in charge of asking them.

dev coming is to be confirmed.

ooh if you can't make it but still want to ask questions. send them to me in a mail with the topic "question for townhall" I'll note these down and try go through as many as possible. cant garentee them all though.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-08-11 12:34:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
I have a bunch of questions Blink Is it ok if i mail them to you cobrexx, so you (or your people) can read them out for me?

Edit:
corbexx wrote:

ooh if you can't make it but still want to ask questions. send them to me in a mail with the topic "question for townhall" I'll note these down and try go through as many as possible. cant garentee them all though.


cool, i'll do that then.
Winthorp
#31 - 2014-08-11 13:08:11 UTC
Solid stuff Corbexx i look forward to listening to it later. I won't mail any questions on this one i have been pretty vocal on these changes already.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#32 - 2014-08-11 13:24:01 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Solid stuff Corbexx i look forward to listening to it later. I won't mail any questions on this one i have been pretty vocal on these changes already.

Same here.

I'm right behind you

Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2014-08-11 13:53:43 UTC
As always DTP (at least myself) will be there and privide a raw recording.
Samantha Elroy
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#34 - 2014-08-11 14:02:49 UTC
Sign me in :)
Thanks Corbexx for the organization

+1
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#35 - 2014-08-11 14:12:53 UTC
Samantha Elroy wrote:
Sign me in :)
Thanks Corbexx for the organization

+1


My second true love has come to the forums my life is complete <33

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Torin Nazimar Jaynara
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-08-11 20:09:52 UTC
I personally won't be able to attend work hours suck. I will appoint a member if the CEO rule is implanted. And will mail you a list.

As far as the changes I like all except frig holes and distance by mass.
Rob Cobb
Probe Patrol
#37 - 2014-08-11 20:17:12 UTC
confirming attendance, i too want to know what drugs they are on.

Not to hijack your thread or anything, but Straw polls to get an idea of what the community wants and what the general concensus is beforehand here.
IAmSeannn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-08-11 22:26:51 UTC
+1.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2014-08-11 23:35:22 UTC
Confirming that I'll be there.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-08-11 23:37:11 UTC
Oh man, are you in for a fun night! Lol