Wormholes

For the record, I do like everything Traiori wrote.

And I think he's right the effect should be sort of reversed, i.e. the faster ships get flung out further, not the heavier ones. Something that would make kiting and sniping ships more viable without nerfing the Proteus directly. Tone down the top speed of covops frigs and astero a bit so they still can get bubbled and decloaked and we're golden.

And I would add that if you can't roll holes anymore ppl will just log off in their POSes instead, and just wait out the natural lifetime which is arguably worse.

Here here! (raises glass in toast of a good speech)

So, CCP found it's balls for change again? My congratulations.

Looking forward to see your balls. bring it!

Guys, I am only a character, less than two years old and with much to learn.
In that time I have seen good changes, and some not so good.
Not every change is what we want, and we get slightly surprised when some minor changes, turn out to have better effects than we think.

This particular change is so derided and hated, for all the reasons that all of us see to a greater or lesser extent, but .

It Has not come out yet, and May never see the light of day.

Hold off on your leaving, on your unsubbing and with your reactions.
You may or may not find your original fears realised.

And whatever the faults, the old things that still annoy us, those who would see us fold and collapse, is is still a unique game, and if it goes, or if we leave, we will never see the like of it again.

Keep your powder dry, keep your fears and anger on a short leash.

There is time to do whatever you planned later, just do not give up on this game too soon, that WILL be a tragedy, as not only will you lose all of us, we will lose you, and you all bring life and vibrancy to the game..

You have influenced all you have met, your friends, those you fought, and even those you will have never seen, and nowhere else will this happen. Even if you leave, You will be remembered in some way and You will be missed even though you are no longer with us.

That is EvE, the best of EvE, let us never forget.

Good luck to us all.

There will be very few wherever they live C1 or C5 in large or small corps who will disagree with you.
But every one who leaves, will be sorely missed.

Some of the most fun fights I've had is where null entities have dropped 70+ BC fleets on us and we've dropped a 10-15 man t3 fleet with triage support out, with mixed results - certainly hasn't always gone our way - sometimes just the loss of 1 t3 tips the ISK balance their way, largely this change would kill that gameplay off except in highly situational circumstances.

First i like to say i am NOT for this change, but......

This might get more kills right away, It will force smaller corps to move out of W-space as they will lose orca's and other closing ships (looking forward to killing them).

Also larger corps rolling to kill escalation fleets will get hurt, as it will take much more effort and time to roll each hole (nice as i will feel a bit safer not getting rolled into as much).

Even though it sounds nice, I feel in the end this will lower the content in W-space in the long term.

Nice idea but over all it seems it will be more of a pain in the a** than getting more content.

I agree what Traiori from Cause For Concern said on the #5 post....

Its more a technical consideration than a gameplay mechanic, though less relevant these days with the way the server works with spread out nodes, unpredictable loads and the range of client hardware and latency without that jump cloak its feasible you could end up loading into the system to find your already podded by the time your fully loaded in and have ship control if someone was waiting on the other side.

Alright ladies and gents, get your tinfoil hats ready coz this one is a pretty good one. Pure unadulterated tinfoil hattery and Grrr Goons with a solid amount of conspiracy, you have been warned. (Conspiracy theory stuff is fun, you don't have to believe in it to make a convincing case. Also bored.)

**This assumes a great deal of competency and is the primary reason why I don't necessarily believe any of this. I'm a fan of the saying; 'don't attribute to malice that witch can be attributed to incompetence'.

Now I've heard people say that CCP Fozzie has a hard on for mitani and that the Goons want to take over/ruin eve. I don't normally put much stock in that but lets look at the last batch of Wormhole specific targeted changes and events that have taken place with this in mind.

- Discovery scanner. I'm kinda on the fence regarding if this was planned or not or if it was just a knock on effect but the general consensus was that it did make farming safer. Lets call this one inconclusive.

- Grav site removal. Pretty much killed WH Mining for the most part. NS mining is better anyways, everyone knows that, yey infinate minerals and local!

- Soon after these changes the whole Goons in WH space thing happened and they got kicked out, yey us!

- The API stats removal. This was a pretty big one and with a single simple change the biggest baddest and arguably most dangerous WH corp decided to leave WH space. Kings of log off traps and no slouches with rage rolling it'd be hard to find any C5-6 corp that hasn't lost at least one farming fleet, or system for that matter, to these nutters. I know we did.

- Increased WHs from Null and LS. As a nullie I've been part of at least one attempt at killing a hole rolling fleet (Got foiled by a DC of our inside scout) and we've killed plenty of wormholers just from the WHs spawning in our own and allied systems.

- Effectively un-collapsible frig holes going to, you guessed it, null. A 50 man AF fleet will easily kill a farming fleet and Goons sure do love their Harpy fleets. They will also decimate lower class fleets, both PvP and PvE. Also Wolf Holes.

- Second static in C4s. Now we don't know what they are yet but if a decent amount of them go to Null then this will seal the fate of any C4 farmers that manage to escape the frig holes. Easy as pie to get a big BS fleet in there and then just titan bridge additional BS/Ishtars to the static once hole control has been established to evict farmers. Lets call this one inconclusive till we know what statics there will be. (Fozzie did say there would be a pattern to it)

- The big one, the Mass distance rolling. Any big or small corps still managing to live in WH space after all the above ways for Null (any not just Goons) to kill them up will leave WH space from pure frustration as more and more smaller corps (Plankton I believe were Mitani's words) leave and rage rolling for PvP or borderline safe PvE becomes impossible.



So what's the end result? A barely inhabited and very safe WH space perfect for seeding a couple dozen Goon farming corps and RMTing Mitani a nice big house and shiny new car.

Ok so that last bit is over the top but I did warn you to bring your tinfoil, this one's a doozy (I worked really hard on this, give me a Dinsdales out of 10 score pls)

I see irony is lost on certain parts of nullsec, what a surprise

Also reading comprehension but at this point thats a given