Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Rocks. U live under them.

Posting to confirm that OP lives under rocks.

Also confirming that it's "etc" and not "E.T.C."

514 of them

To improve on the idea (with respect)

Make that idea a DUST 514 feature. I am also not sure if DUST 514 is actually linked to eve. If not they should be, then incorporate this idea. Have eve players pay DUST mercs to set up the industry on the planet. Heavy combat will ensue, tears will fall from the sky and all will rejoice.

Dosen't matter, just understand what i'm talking about..
I didn't expect so many people to see this Ideá anyway..

Oh god no...

Why would I want to walk on planets, when I can obliterate whole cities from orbit with one command ?

WiS to make some rediculous emotes like in WoW and dance ? - By the Joves No!

And why would I want FPS integration when I chose to paly a spaceship MMO ?

PS: Nothing against interconnecting Legion with EVE, but please no direct landing/takeoff... well, they can try to take off

I like the idea in general. But in my opinion it's no EvE feature but an additional game or maybe an extented gameplay for Dust.
Aunt Edit said: There's no need for a second FPS in the EvE universe. There are enough outside. Moreover I see no sense in landing at planets with that large EvE ships. In my opinion a Shuttle has nearly the biggest size to do that without stranding.
Space lifts a great invention and should be preferred to connect space and surface.

When I think about cities at planets and moons I more think at "Sierra - Outpost 1" or "SimCity". So I really would like to play a simulation like them at my PC what has a higher influence at EvE gameplay but not all of it's disadvantages for carebears. I need no "FallOut" instead.

If you manage a city at a planet, there's no need to expand the universe for this game. Planets have a lot of empty space for new cities away from factional homeworlds. A close cooperation between this game and a PI game substitution sounds interesting. So PI could become a lot more...

My idea short:
- settling sizes from "small outpost" to "cultural world" depending on population
- a high population may assist in PI (if PI not becomes a game in game too), may deliver bonuses and so on
- settling temperate planets might be much easier than harsh worlds or moons
- moon towns or harsh world towns will consume products like water or air (sink in the EvE market possible)
- outpost citizens have not much interest in culture instead of big cities which would like to get supply with luxury goods
- planetary industry may produce own stuff using local or might be carried away to other worlds via customs offices and spacelifts (no direct landing with EvE ships)
- planetary cities are defended against airstrikes by default (shielded command center)
- maybe Dust mercenaries can drop troups to fight for cities, but it should'nt be their daily business
- EvE lore planets are not able to be colonized by players - they still are settled by factional NPCs

If you like to have a simple PI in EvE you may use a "macro management system" with only default bonusses and without any detailed planetary management. Such a "macro management system" could have a bit better but not more complex look and feel like PI presently. Chars/Corps could assist PI but it should not be necessary to have planetary and social management additional to common PI.

Well, as you can see from the responses to your post that the bitter vets want this game to die. The thing that you missed is that the player base hated even the insertion of the captain's quarters. There was huge backlash against it, and the opinion was conveyed through a mass exodus from the game around the Incarna expansion, that Eve was about spaceships and only that. CCP was stung so hard by this reaction that the company seems to have forevermore disavowed any sort of commitment to avatar play. Now, if you even suggest anything related to avatar based play your post will likely be locked instantly by an ISD or someone as a redundant and useless thread because the issue of avatar play has already been discussed and universally abandoned. I'm surprised yours hasn't been.

On the upside, though, while they won't say it publicly, I do believe there are those at CCP that know that the player base's definition of Eve as spaceships only as dictated by the bitter vets will ultimately prevent new players from joining Eve, especially with competition with the likes of Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen lurking on the horizon. Obviously the bitter vets will hate anything that moves the game forward, as Crius is showing them, and no matter how cool they make spaceships, the bitter vets will slowly trickle out of the game as the game continues to get cooler. Basically, people just aren't made to play one MMO for 20 years, and soon CCP will figure out that the bitter vets are going to leave no matter what they do, and they will notice that Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous are attracting all the new players because they are not insisting on defining themselves by an utterly cynical 'spaceships only' definition.

Alongside this, we have Project: Legion, which I believe was developed not only because the marketing on the PS3 side did not hit home with DUST 514 but also because the technical issues involved with integrating with Eve will be much lighter. At Fanfest they did announce that they would move toward a unified login, definitely meaning that you will have one login for DUST, Legion, Valkyrie, and Eve, and possibly also hinting that at some point you may be able to log your Eve character into DUST or Legion or Valkyrie.

Legion has been only lightly hinted at by CCP and the press, but one detail they've made known is that instead of being based on limited terrain engagement zones Legion players will be able to run all around planets creating mayhem. This sort of thing is easy to do as building planets to run around in and even build structures on has been done as far back as Star Wars: Galaxies.

So initially, like another poster said, you probably won't be getting FPS action in Eve, but you'll get it in the companion games that CCP is working on, and it looks like they intend to prioritize integration between the games, so that at first you'll be able to play Legion, then maybe you'll be able to play Legion with your Eve character, and from there the games can expand in tandem and integrate so that quite possibly you may be able to do PI Sim City style on a planet and manufacture houses and cars and all that.

But one thing is for sure, if CCP ever said they were going to put resources into avatar play in Eve they'd be instantly slain by the bitter vets. There is the possibility that they will bring it into Eve 'back door style' through Legion and Valkyrie, though.

Surely, with Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen coming out, Eve can't just forget about avatar play no matter what the bitter vets say. Ultimately it will make its way to you, but it will be incremental and take years.

Notice all the posters in support of this kind of thing are new players, and all the posters laughing at it are vets?

Take notice, CCP.