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CCP - Please Remove SOV - (Structures & Timers) aka "Training Wheels"

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CloudyHi Crush
Kleptomaniac Consortium
#61 - 2014-06-23 06:37:14 UTC
Just imagine playing a game of risk with sov. When you don't have to defend your space because you have so everyone idles. If there was no sov. People would be forced to defend or close their space.I like the idea of null having no rules. This would change the stalemate!
Jade Blackwind
#62 - 2014-06-23 14:17:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Blackwind
Yes, for Bob's sake.

And, while we are at it, remove bubbles from the game as well, or make interdiction nullifier a low-slot module with penalties similar to a warp core stab.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#63 - 2014-06-23 14:31:30 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:

And, while we are at it, remove the bubbles from the game as well, or make interdiction nullifier a low-slot module with penalties similar to a warp core stab.


... Whah?....

I don't.... No... Just stop... Stay on topic or GTFO. If you want to drop half-baked ideas that've been recycled for years do it in your own thread so it can be locked for redundancy like everyone else.

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#64 - 2014-06-23 14:52:01 UTC
An argument can be fairly made that sov could have been intended to reward effort.
Specifically, the effort to take and claim space.

Please note I did not include hold space there, just take and claim it.

Sov appears to have given great leverage, and resulting stability, towards being able to hold space.
It is more difficult to claim space than to defend it, as a result of the details.

Stability in a game, giving past efforts an entrenched position against future ones, seems an awkward way to promote change and dynamic play.
Jade Blackwind
#65 - 2014-06-23 15:01:05 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
If you want to drop half-baked ideas that've been recycled for years do it in your own thread so it can be locked for redundancy like everyone else.
No problem! Here: :P


Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2014-06-23 16:45:49 UTC
Hell yeah!


Turn all renter space to NPC, if not all of sov null.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.

Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2014-07-21 11:36:51 UTC
Legion40k wrote:
Remove SOV, it's so freaking boring

DO IT

I just figure there will be so many ideas on how to "fix" something that can't really be fixed, that CCP will just end up picking something that gets gamed again by the blocs.

Just clean the slate for a year or two and see what happens. Could be just the enema the game needs, flushing out all the old bitter vets, and allowing a sort of reset to happen by living where you want and can control each day etc.

While this goes on, CCP and all the smart players can start adding small mechanics to build back a light SOV option thats not so cumbersome etc.
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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#68 - 2014-07-21 14:17:30 UTC
YAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I wear my goggles at night.

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Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2014-07-21 16:08:25 UTC
Kill it with fire

Because Far-que... That's why.

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#70 - 2014-07-21 17:56:23 UTC
+1 Sov mechanics suck.
KATAL MATU
Doomheim
#71 - 2014-07-21 18:05:42 UTC
OP has a great idea. I hope CCP does it. It would save them a lot of dev hours that they can use on other things.
Phaade
LowKey Ops
Snuffed Out
#72 - 2014-07-21 18:16:17 UTC
+1 for days and days and days.

CCP, do it. You are dumb if you don't.

Every visit to 0.0 resulted in massive blobs, 70 jump roams finding nothing but a 50 man gate camp and swift death, pointless structure bashing, anomaly farming...............zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ugh

Null Sec is the worst part of the EVE universe.

I'll stick to faction warfare until null sec becomes the antithesis of what it is now.


....If CCP used any sense....Null Sec could be SO MUCH FUN.....alas they do not.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#73 - 2014-07-21 19:39:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Swiftstrike1
Totally agree that removing SOV is the way forward.

EVE: Online's main selling point is that it's a giant sandbox, but there are all these arbitrary rules and constraints in nullsec... it has never made sense. It needs to go.

Let me build whatever I want, wherever I want. Then let anybody else come along and destroy it... if they can Pirate

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.

Phaade
LowKey Ops
Snuffed Out
#74 - 2014-07-21 20:17:39 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
Totally agree that removing SOV is the way forward.

EVE: Online's main selling point is that it's a giant sandbox, but there are all these arbitrary rules and constraints in nullsec... it has never made sense. It needs to go.

Let me build whatever I want, wherever I want. Then let anybody else come along and destroy it... if they can Pirate


100% accurate.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-07-21 23:29:19 UTC
+1

Best idea to come along in a long time. Also, add a few more nullsec and lowsec regions.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#76 - 2014-07-22 00:16:44 UTC
Let's talk fluff wise... everyone in the game are immortals, hence killing people is pointless.

Let's all have a group hug and shoot dem drones as they can't have clones!
Kit Bradovich
Defying Vision
#77 - 2014-07-22 01:15:03 UTC
+1 also.

CCP look at the idea and make null sec fun and interesting again!!

Bump it to the top Big smile
Erica Rotineque
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2014-07-22 01:22:52 UTC
This is an awesome idea, +1

CCP needs to go out on a limb, take a risk, if they want this game to survive, and this is the perfect way to do it.

However, I would have it so that player owned stations remain that way, and docking rights can be decided by the owner.
Mazzara
Band of the Red Sun
#79 - 2014-07-22 01:40:40 UTC
Sounds like a great idea. +1
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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#80 - 2014-07-22 03:48:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
moons need a balance pass
they should work like planets in PI do



this will stimulate conflict on an unprecedented scale, more explosions than you could count
it will be glorious