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What Should I Use To Kill Sleepers In WH?

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Remy Nolen
Sama Guild
#41 - 2014-06-27 02:12:31 UTC
I've since left w-space so I'll share my comp for C4 space.

2 domis + 1 basi. Very easy to multiboxing.

Domis:
Highs - 3x drone range, 2 large cap xfer, 1 large shield xfer
Mids - Omni, Em, Therm resists, LSE, Omnidirectional tracking scripted
Lows- 4 DDA, 2 drone enhancers, Damage control
Rigs- fill resist holes, usually ran none.

Basi;
High- 4 shield, 2 cap
Mids- Omni, EM, LSE, faction painter
Lows- Damage Control & signal amp
rigs- fitting

tips:
Sentry drones ofc, I used gardes & bouncers exclusively.
Set assist drones to logi
Frontier barracks - bouncers, no need to switch drones, use logi drones to kill close frigs
SIS & Command post - Gardes & lights/meds
Paint targets to set sentries on them, watch ranges, frigs/cruisers @ +90km MWD & are always first kill.
Need decent skill/dps/etc to not get dunked by second spawns/waves.
Never run intergrated terminus.
Use mobile tractors, don't wait for it to finish, just go to the next site.
Bookmarks, Bookmarks, Bookmarks.

Chain farming frontier barracks & SiS provides best isk/hr ratio for this comp. Should be able to clear close to 400m an hour.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#42 - 2014-06-29 21:45:11 UTC
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#43 - 2014-07-06 09:18:30 UTC
Since this is a thread, apparently, I will share some novel and unique ways of group farming low-end wormholes.

I will state without video evidence to corroborate, that you can do C3 W-R all sites with 2 x Enyo and 1 x Execquror (Dualprop with MAAR) and also C3 Cats with the same setup.

Normal C3's you can do with 3+ Enyo and 2 Execqurors. This is better than doing it in Drakes, fun-wise, and 1/20th the cost of doing it in RR Tengus. You need not ask why it is better than doing it in Drakes. Plus, you are combat fit and essentially an out of the box combat gang anyway, so you should welcome the rare occasion you get bouced. You should reserve this for C3 Magnetars or Wolf-Rayet, however, because you get zomg DPS and can churn faster.

Having not had the time or luxury to attempt C4's with this gang, I will merely state that EFT says it's doable.

C3 Pulsars you can achieve with a LASB Scimi and Blarpy gang. Afgain, you should not be doing this with Drakes, because of Drake.

C2's you should leave to itinerant peons stumbling in from highsec, as they are not worth doing in any situation due to poor ISK/hr yields. If you have a C2 with A239/D382 you reserve the D382 for pew pew and logistics and make money of 5/10's in lowsec. Just sayin'

C1s you can do with two AB Scythes or, for extra style points, RR Ishkurs.
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
#44 - 2014-07-26 20:07:57 UTC
c1's can be solo'ed also in brutix and harbinger , prophecy might work too but i would stick to drake for c1 , c2 at c3 would be tengu best choice but 3 drakes could still beat sleepers
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#45 - 2014-07-26 21:19:59 UTC
Justin Cody
War Firm
#46 - 2014-07-31 18:05:41 UTC
I hear the Velator is OP with officer mods
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#47 - 2014-07-31 18:11:50 UTC
Link fit pls and describe what you use it for Cool
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
#48 - 2014-08-07 22:18:31 UTC
used armageddon battleship in c2 untill some day got blown up. it was not good idea lol
but im giving it another try

what should fit into armageddon? decided to use it because of wolf rayet star effect.
Temba Ronin
#49 - 2014-08-07 22:32:07 UTC
To the OP ...... Many thanks for starting this thread!

To the contributors thanks also. I am having a good time using the different fits on the test server.

With the Hyperion changes just down the street I'll be ready to try them in the new situations that will come from the changes/ updates.

I hope my lust for Sleeper loot and wormhole ores can be satisfied with the info you all share here, again thank you all very much.

Glad to see this got a sticky!!!

The Best Ship In EVE Online Is "Friendship", Power To The Players!

Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#50 - 2014-08-07 23:18:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
Amak Boma wrote:
used armageddon battleship in c2 untill some day got blown up. it was not good idea lol
but im giving it another try

what should fit into armageddon? decided to use it because of wolf rayet star effect.


Don't have a fit on hand but probably do something cap boosted dual armor reps with heavy drones and some neuts in highs for the inevitable gank attempt.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#51 - 2014-08-08 16:03:01 UTC
I made my own thread but i'l ask here, anyone have a solo c4 fit? is there a single ship that can run all the sites or most of them in a c4? I could prolly do a single with a logi, otherwise i'll use 4 tengus, but id rather like to see if I can do this solo. I saw the rattlesnake setup and wonder if that's all that will work?

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

freddy dare
The Wrong Hole
#52 - 2014-08-08 17:55:08 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I made my own thread but i'l ask here, anyone have a solo c4 fit? is there a single ship that can run all the sites or most of them in a c4? I could prolly do a single with a logi, otherwise i'll use 4 tengus, but id rather like to see if I can do this solo. I saw the rattlesnake setup and wonder if that's all that will work?



Just typed out a large reply and the forum ate it, Bastard



For reference : http://thecloakedones.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/a-c4-vargur.html

Helped me a lot when I tried this out.

Vargur solo, Can do sites (some) Can be a bit hairy if you mess up, I used the same fit but with Nos insead of salvagers.
and didnt have a alt booster in system.
It took longer to compete each site than I had anticipated and I like to minimise the time spent in each site as much as possible for obvious reasons.

I came to the conclusion I can make more iskies in a C3 using my trusty alt and main in a sleipnir each, with Mwd + shield Buffer+Max gank. All T2 10 ecm drones between them to hopefully buy you a way out if you get caught.

The 2 Sleipnirs fitted cost less than the Vargur Hull alone and clear site so fast the isk is probably better than the c4 solo.


That link above if you dig around also has his previous fit with 2xRR Rattlesnakes capable of easily doing C4 sites but again the risk/cost is probably even higher than the lone Vargur.

Good Luck share what you find if you try it out o7
freddy dare
The Wrong Hole
#53 - 2014-08-08 18:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: freddy dare
Also how has the Sleipnir not had a mention for the lower class Holes.

It EXCEL's at c1/c2 sites solo, I have not found a ship that can do it faster for the same cost.
Cheap T2 Tightarse fit

Quote:
[Sleipnir, New Setup 4]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Hobgoblin II x5



Fit the 2 extra highs and rigs to your liking and enjoy your rapid isk.

yes I ignored a ship Bonus with having no booster but It doesn't need one for the job at hand.
Thomas Brodsky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-08-12 18:12:17 UTC
All the abbreviations and acronyms make this thread useless to brand new players.

Further explanation would be very appreciated.
freddy dare
The Wrong Hole
#55 - 2014-08-14 17:46:30 UTC
Thomas Brodsky wrote:
All the abbreviations and acronyms make this thread useless to brand new players.

Further explanation would be very appreciated.






3 pages, you need to specify exactly what you require assistance with.

a good eve online abbriviation guide if it helps you here:
Odin Skydiver
Alexylva Paradox
#56 - 2014-09-17 22:54:27 UTC
I've been debating should I post my T1 raven C4 solo video to this thread. Cause then I would need to explain how it tanks 1400dps and still does 888dps (without drones). It cost around 237mISK in jita. In general eve pve is unchallenging when you learn to adapt to different situations.

Here is my raven in barrack, enjoy..
http://youtu.be/uK5XPJShggk.

I really hope CCP would make some pve content to pve freaks so I wouldn't need to go to wh to find some challenge.
Or at least fix low class sites to be more profitable to do in fleet. Burner missions are nice and step to right direction but yea..
C5 Garrison site also looks doable in raven at least in theory but there I would need opportunity to get the site and some peace and blue pills to be able to tank that 1920dps.

Before you ask about the fit I'll say there isn't just one fit. And most of you wont like it anyway.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#57 - 2014-09-17 23:08:01 UTC
The video isn't useful in the context of this thread. If you want to brag go elsewhere.

Otherwise link a fit + extra fitting mods you switch out to with mobile depot and a short explanation of when to use each fit. If you do that I'll add it to the list in the OP
Odin Skydiver
Alexylva Paradox
#58 - 2014-09-17 23:38:35 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
The video isn't useful in the context of this thread. If you want to brag go elsewhere.

Otherwise link a fit + extra fitting mods you switch out to with mobile depot and a short explanation of when to use each fit. If you do that I'll add it to the list in the OP


So I've posted that just to brag in and threads name is "What Should I Use To Kill Sleepers In WH?". Basically how to thread.
Video is just proof that it works and you're right it isn't much useful to this thread by itself.

I clearly said "Cause then I would need to explain how it..." Translation I will explain all but a bit later when I get some sleep.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#59 - 2014-09-18 00:03:10 UTC
Why waste everyone's time with these posts then? Its not that difficult to explain what to do. You could have easily done it in either of your posts.

Example: Warp in with x fit
Have extra hardners, extenders, tp, webs, cap, bcus
On land primary x
Refit tp/web to deal with frigs after x bs are dead
Refit more deeps on x wave
Odin Skydiver
Alexylva Paradox
#60 - 2014-09-18 15:57:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Odin Skydiver
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Why waste everyone's time with these posts then? Its not that difficult to explain what to do. You could have easily done it in either of your posts.

Example: Warp in with x fit
Have extra hardners, extenders, tp, webs, cap, bcus
On land primary x
Refit tp/web to deal with frigs after x bs are dead
Refit more deeps on x wave


I'm sorry to waste your time then. I'm fairly new to these forums so I wasn't prepared to give all the information at once. My goal was to find cheapest way to solo these sites and I was happy that it finally works like it should. Also if you can make it cheaper without compromising tank pm.

Directions:

When I land to the site lows are full of Expanded Cargohold t2 (5*) to hold around 55+5(in booster) 800 cap boosters, depot, mtu, pdu is there for to make you cap stable if needed using cap boosters if you happen to get all neuts and signal amp to compensate wh effect or if the preserver spawn is too far away from you. When I arrive to site depot/mtu out and I switch to following fit. In preserver spawn I swap EM to Invul to mainly save cap charges cause incoming damage is mostly kin/explosive. And to kill cruisers I swap shield amps to tps. It works everywhere except cataclysmic variable hole even in wolf rayet but I don't recommend it at first (single preserver bs volley is around 2027). In command post I use 2x Invul and therm hardeners and in that site try to save cap charges because you have more ehp to kill so you need to tank longer. Also don't shoot preserver bs using thermal damage they have 5% higher resist to that damage type 80% and bring both types of t2 ammo.

I know that tank is literally out of the box I mean ship it's kinda challenging and that way fun to fly and It's also a way cheaper than any c4 marauder. And if you happen to get ganked you get mail form T1 hull insurance. I wish the burner bs missions would be hard like c4 sites or harder. If I put this fit in golem tank would be even more insane.

FIT: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/71265-Raven-C4-solo-minimal-fleet-runner.html