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What Should I Use To Kill Sleepers In WH?

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Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#1 - 2014-06-08 18:26:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
Lets get a single thread to post pve help, fits, ideologies, or what have you.

Post you're isk making ways and I'll update OP.

To simplify this down a bit since there is no limit to possible ship+fit combinations that could successfully run the various WH sites I will try to find 3 fits/comps for each clase. A low skilled fit, a moderately skilled fit, and a highly skilled fit. Obviously, as wh class increases the low skilled bar will be raised. As such, low to moderately skilled setups will most likely be based around a fleet composition, while highly skilled setups will focus more on solo/small group work to maximize isk. The goal here is to get tried and true set ups that you can take and go make isk with. I will attempt to post the most efficient setups I can find!

I guess now would be a good time to show my credentials on why you would even consider using any of these fits. I started eve in the fall(sept/oct) of 2009. I was recruited into a player corperation while I was still in my two week trial, which just happened to be a short time after Apocrypha(WH expansion) was released. Long story short my 'new' corp had set up a small tower in a c1 and my gameplay has revolved around wh's ever since. With these experiences I have fc'd many fleets, eft warrior'd fleet comps, and been in leadership positions of every corp I have been in. Saying this, 95% of the fits I link in here will not be my own creations. They will be curated from the various threads on these forums. Take any fit you find here with a grain of salt. I highly recommend testing anything out on Sisi before trying it on TQ.


***CCP 'FIXED' RR'ing NPCs*** Some anoms may require much higher dps to complete

Class 1

  • Anoms (5-15mil)
  • Any bc
    Zealot or Legion with Scorch, Noctis mandatory
  • Relic
  • Data

Class 2

  • Anoms (10-30mil)
  • Drake or couple bc
  • Relic
  • Data

Class 3

  • Anoms (30-60mil)
  • Machariel + RR Tengu
    T3 of Choice
  • Relic
  • Data

Class 4
Class 5
Class 6

Please correct me if I'm wrong on anything here! I'm doing this from memory so please forgive me if I stuff something up.
Aquila Sagitta
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#2 - 2014-06-08 18:26:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
[reserved for eft warriors]

Amazing Spreadsheet Magic

Note Relic/Data are roughly the same difficulty as a regular anom from the class above. Relics are generally more difficult then datas. Example: A c2 relic site is roughly the same difficulty as a c3 anom.

Sleeper Stats
Get details on specific sites at Eve Survival

Class 1
Range: 5-30km
Damage: ~300dps
Warp Disruption: None
//rank sites in difficulty order

Class 2
Range: 5-100km
Damage: ~600dps
Warp Disruption: None
//rank sites in difficulty order

Class 3
Range: 5-50km
Damage: ~1000dps
Warp Disruption: None
//rank sites in difficulty order

Class 4
Range: 5-120km
Damage: ~1500dps?
Warp Disruption: Possible
//rank sites in difficulty order

Class 5
Range: 5-60km (Oruze are exception with spawns over 100km away)
Damage: ~2000dps, 6 bs escalation: 4164dps, 8 bs escalation: 5552dps
Warp Disruption: Yes
//rank sites in difficulty order

Class 6
Range: 5-150km
Damage: ~3000dps?, 6 bs escalation: 4164dps, 8 bs escalation: 5552dps
Warp Disruption: Yes
//rank sites in difficulty order
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#3 - 2014-06-08 18:27:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
[reserved for c5/c6]

  • Comps per effect
  • Tricks/tips


Escalation Guide

Solo Dread Guide (mute if you don't like dubstep)

Red Giant Smartbomb Guide *Podding Danger*

Not sure if this is still a thing and I've never done it myself so take heavy grain of salt with the following. Sleepers must be within ~250kms of the Cosmic Signature. If they pass the boundary they are teleported back to the cosmic sig. This behavior can be exploited to run sites in non-traditional ways. I.E. Sit outside this boundary and snipe the sleepers as they run towards you.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2014-06-08 18:27:55 UTC
For C5/6s, you may want for home and for static.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#5 - 2014-06-08 18:30:38 UTC
Good idea! updated OP
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#6 - 2014-06-08 19:06:44 UTC
For mad c1-dosh:
Zealot or Legion with Scorch, Noctis mandatory. Up to 120mil an hour with those ****** MNR-prices.

Should place a link to Jack Miton's old *how to escalate*-post, and the recent one from Paikis I believe. Throw in the video about solo-dread escalation and you got a very detailed view for c5/c6-sites. Just shove it in between the c4 and c5-section. Should include a link to smartbombing BS in red giants.
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
#7 - 2014-06-08 19:24:32 UTC
IMO I'm not sure this may be the best way to go about the topic. The problem is there is such a wide variety of ships and fleet comps that be successful, especially in the lower class WH's that you will end up with just a huge list of everyone's opinion of what's "best"

It may be better to simply post up guidelines, and let people EFT warrior on their own. AKA C3 anoms max out around XXX DPS and tend to be at Y ranges, etc.
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#8 - 2014-06-08 19:26:24 UTC
Good idea! I'll try to incorporate that
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#9 - 2014-06-08 21:23:32 UTC
Can you still do smartbomb apocs in a C6 Red Giant? I know people have done it, but after they changed slightly how the escalation waves spawn it seems like they might get out of range too fast.

I don't know though since I haven't tried and don' thave the resources to try.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-06-08 21:32:58 UTC
hahaha, already made one of these, and it has over 60 comps on it :P
Unfortunately only my current corp gets access to it, until the doctrines get retired that is
Aquila Sagitta
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#11 - 2014-06-08 21:33:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
Thats a good question Angsty... I don't actually know. I just assumed it was still good since I didn't read anything about someone bitching about it Big smile

Care to share Keith?
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-06-08 21:41:45 UTC
that rattlesnake fit for c4s is just an abomination... who the hell posted that?
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#13 - 2014-06-08 22:23:24 UTC
Don't talk **** unless your willing to help
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-06-08 23:21:39 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
that rattlesnake fit for c4s is just an abomination... who the hell posted that?

What the ever living..... Ok, THat needs to be replaced with something, If its got to be solo a passive snake should get 900 DPS with 1.9k DPS tank or so.
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#15 - 2014-06-08 23:30:01 UTC
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-06-08 23:43:58 UTC
[Rattlesnake, PASSIVE SNAKE]

5x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Cruise Missile)
Drone Link Augmentor II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
2x Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II

2x Power Diagnostic System II
4x Shield Power Relay II

3x Large Core Defense Field Purger II

2x Imperial Navy Curator

1500 DPS tank, Enough for everything but the Relic/data Sites
Catalytic morphisis
Indecision
RAZOR Alliance
#17 - 2014-06-08 23:50:34 UTC
Solo C3 Proteus if fit right can solo every single C3 site, including mags and such, I have listed it below, You can use the same fit on a Legion, Obviously with Heavy Pulses and in 3rd mid a large Cap battery as oppose to the 2 x cap rechargers, Both I have personally used many times to 100% effectiveness in any C3 site

High Slots
Heavy Neutron Blaster II x 5

Mid slots
Cap recharger II x 2
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Gistum C-type 10MN Microwarpdrive

Low Slots
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor repairer
Damage Control II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer x 2
Corpum C-Type Energized adaptive Nano Plating x 2
Centus A-Type Armor Explosive Hardener

Rigs
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I x 2

Subsystems
Nanobot Injector
CPU Efficiency Gate
Localized injectors
Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Actual Link free and scout free solo PvP'er

Catalytic morphisis
Indecision
RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2014-06-09 00:31:19 UTC
Found out my legion fit so here it is, Works in any site Below C4, If you're careful you can even do C4 anoms in this but it is hard work

High Slots
Heavy Pulse Laser II x 5
sisters Expanded Probe Launcher

Medium Slots
Large Capacitor Battery II
Federation Navy Stasis webifier
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

Low slots
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Heat Sink x 2
Imperial Navy Energized adaptive nano membrane x 2
Imperial Navy Armor thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor kinetic Hardener

Rigs
Medium auxiliary nano Pump I x 2
Medium Nanobot accelerator I

Subsystems
Defensive - Nanobot injector
Electronics - Emergent locus analyzer
Offensive - Liquid crystal magnifier
Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Actual Link free and scout free solo PvP'er

Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-06-09 01:43:27 UTC
C6 Red Giants can still be done by smartbombing (used Abaddons, not Apocs) with the right fits and precision. Best if the sites are spawned already, and you have the correct warpins.

That being said, it's a lot less hassle to do sites conventionally if you're already set up for that.

Just a wormhole guy

Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
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#20 - 2014-06-09 02:01:27 UTC
Interesting. I thought doing them with smartbombs would make everything much easier out of simplicity.
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