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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4221 - 2014-06-26 15:50:21 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Again, you don't know who or what Rebirth is. Kinda hard to explain this stuffs to a guy who are completely clueless when it comes to empire wars the last 2-3 years.
Uh no, It's kind of hard to explain because only you chant your nonsense. Nobody else cares that Rebirth even existed for a brief moment. You might get a big rush when you say "I'm ex-rebirth", but nobody else cares about an irrelevant group that was good at disbanding :p
You need a reality check, stat. If you were the "most feared", then everyone would know who you are. It would be an undeniable truth. But since the only person stating that is you, it looks more like a kid puffing out his chest and screaming "I'm big and tough, honest".

NightmareX wrote:
Yup, it will prove your waah waah arguments to be invalid witch is the point i'm trying to explain to you. Just because someone is camping hubs and that, you don't bring in the rest of the alliance under the same boat. Specially not today when it's about Marmite.
No, it won't. It'll be half hour to an hour of incredibly dull fights, sped up and with some random music you like, and yet still dull. I'm positive there will even be the "moments of glory" where you weren't even in high sec at all, but it won't prove anything. Anyone with eyes can see where the majority of your kills come from, so a video of you in a system with red numbers won't actually change that.

By the way, I like how there's a common trend in your posts where everything anyone else says is butthurt or "waah waah", when all I have to do is call you irrelevant and you explode into defensive rageposting. You certainly are a source of entertainment when I'm bored at least :D

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4222 - 2014-06-26 15:59:01 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Again, you don't know who or what Rebirth is. Kinda hard to explain this stuffs to a guy who are completely clueless when it comes to empire wars the last 2-3 years.
Uh no, It's kind of hard to explain because only you chant your nonsense. Nobody else cares that Rebirth even existed for a brief moment. You might get a big rush when you say "I'm ex-rebirth", but nobody else cares about an irrelevant group that was good at disbanding :p
You need a reality check, stat. If you were the "most feared", then everyone would know who you are. It would be an undeniable truth. But since the only person stating that is you, it looks more like a kid puffing out his chest and screaming "I'm big and tough, honest".

You are talking about me talking nonsense?

LOL, that came from the right person. I know what i'm talking about because i'm an ex-Rebirth member. Got it?

Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Yup, it will prove your waah waah arguments to be invalid witch is the point i'm trying to explain to you. Just because someone is camping hubs and that, you don't bring in the rest of the alliance under the same boat. Specially not today when it's about Marmite.
No, it won't. It'll be half hour to an hour of incredibly dull fights, sped up and with some random music you like, and yet still dull. I'm positive there will even be the "moments of glory" where you weren't even in high sec at all, but it won't prove anything. Anyone with eyes can see where the majority of your kills come from, so a video of you in a system with red numbers won't actually change that.

By the way, I like how there's a common trend in your posts where everything anyone else says is butthurt or "waah waah", when all I have to do is call you irrelevant and you explode into defensive rageposting. You certainly are a source of entertainment when I'm bored at least :D

No, It'll be half hour of good PVP fights we have had. I even deleted 2 of the earlier fights we had because they don't lives up to the standard today. I know the video will be good this time as i'm gonna go through a vertifying process where several peoples have to go through my video before it gets released.

Just believe whatever you want, but i will prove your arguments wrong and i will make sure that i'm gonna make fun of you because of your arguments here.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4223 - 2014-06-26 16:07:56 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
LOL, that came from the right person. I know what i'm talking about because i'm an ex-Rebirth member. Got it?
That's what I thought. I accept your admission of failure.

NightmareX wrote:
No, It'll be half hour of good PVP fights we have had. I even deleted 2 of the earlier fights we had because they don't lives up to the standard today. I know the video will be good this time as i'm gonna go through a vertifying process where several peoples have to go through my video before it gets released.

Just believe whatever you want, but i will prove your arguments wrong and i will make sure that i'm gonna make fun of you because of your arguments here.
Ha, I very much doubt it. I've seen your previous posts, your utter inability to accept criticism and your lack of understanding of how something can be enjoyed as a participant, but not as a viewer. I can almost guarantee that the responses will be that your video is boring, to which your responses will be "omg such butthurt", "waah waah" and "this is all because everyone has something against me". After several pages of back and forth trolling and bad smacktalk, the thread will be closed.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#4224 - 2014-06-26 16:34:08 UTC  |  Edited by: VegasMirage
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
If you know what Rebirth is and what Rebirth together was / is capable of doing, then you know that i'm talking about the truth here.

I'm not saying we are better than you here, i'm just saying that Marmite isn't a target for you that's as easy to fight today than it was before.


Pretty sure morons in the alliance would still die, with THREE INCH TERROR as members or not.


β€œTo realize that you do not understand is a virtue; not to realize that you do not understand is a defect.”
― Lao Tzu (sure he was talking to Rebirth)

no more games... it's real this time!!!

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4225 - 2014-06-26 16:40:55 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
LOL, that came from the right person. I know what i'm talking about because i'm an ex-Rebirth member. Got it?
That's what I thought. I accept your admission of failure.

LOL, doesn't help. I'm ex-Rebirth member and i know Rebirth in and out compared to you that doesn't even know the corp at all.

Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
No, It'll be half hour of good PVP fights we have had. I even deleted 2 of the earlier fights we had because they don't lives up to the standard today. I know the video will be good this time as i'm gonna go through a vertifying process where several peoples have to go through my video before it gets released.

Just believe whatever you want, but i will prove your arguments wrong and i will make sure that i'm gonna make fun of you because of your arguments here.
Ha, I very much doubt it. I've seen your previous posts, your utter inability to accept criticism and your lack of understanding of how something can be enjoyed as a participant, but not as a viewer. I can almost guarantee that the responses will be that your video is boring, to which your responses will be "omg such butthurt", "waah waah" and "this is all because everyone has something against me". After several pages of back and forth trolling and bad smacktalk, the thread will be closed.

Ahh, so bringing in what happened several years ago is bound to happen again?

Seems like a good way to discuss to bring in things that happened a long time ago.

And if you read my topic about my Rebirth 4 video, you will see that i'm taking the genuine criticisms to me and have noted it down. What i do react on there is those guys who just trolls just because they can and just trolls and says things without even giving reasons for it. Yeah, soneone say the video / some of the fights are bad, but they should give an explanation on what's bad or whatever with it so i can improve on those things.

So no, my new video will not have boring moments. And this time i'm not in a hurry either to make a video, so if it will take 1 year to make it, i will use 1 year to make sure it will be good.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4226 - 2014-06-26 16:51:20 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
LOL, doesn't help. I'm ex-Rebirth member and i know Rebirth in and out compared to you that doesn't even know the corp at all.
lol, you aren't very bright are you. That was my whole point. If most people have never even heard of you, how can you possibly claimed to have been the most feared? Sure YOU know your corp existed and YOU think you were hardcore, but that's not proof of anything. You were just another wardec corp, nothing more.

NightmareX wrote:
Ahh, so bringing in what happened several years ago is bound to happen again?
Yes. Ignorant people rarely learn from their mistakes, and it's clear from the way you respond that you attitude is no different.

NightmareX wrote:
And if you read my topic about my Rebirth 4 video, you will see that i'm taking the genuine criticisms to me and have noted it down. What i do react on is those guys who just trolls just because they can and just trolls and say things without even giving reasons for it.
Uh no, you were taking the light criticism and noting it down, discarding everything else as tears. You can selectively pick out the criticism if you want, but then nothing will change, you won;t learn anything and you'll remain ignorant. It was clear that there were several pieces of genuine criticism that many people agreed with, which you read then simply ignored because those people were "butthurt".

NightmareX wrote:
So no, my new video will not have boring moments. And this time i'm not in a hurry either to make a video, so if it will take 1 year to make it, i will use 1 year to make sure it will be good.
I sincerely doubt that, but only time will tell.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4227 - 2014-06-26 17:08:28 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
LOL, doesn't help. I'm ex-Rebirth member and i know Rebirth in and out compared to you that doesn't even know the corp at all.
lol, you aren't very bright are you. That was my whole point. If most people have never even heard of you, how can you possibly claimed to have been the most feared? Sure YOU know your corp existed and YOU think you were hardcore, but that's not proof of anything. You were just another wardec corp, nothing more.

Just because you haven't hear about us, because your a 0.0 space carebear with no clues about empire, then it doesn't mean everyone else haven't heard about us. Again, i'm saying that everyone who have been doing empire wars and PVP and those who have been war dec'ed by us in empire knows who Rebirth is. That is a fact.

Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Ahh, so bringing in what happened several years ago is bound to happen again?
Yes. Ignorant people rarely learn from their mistakes, and it's clear from the way you respond that you attitude is no different.

My attitude towards you is because you are talking right out of your ass, basicly. If you at least could have provided some sources to base your statements out of, then it would be better, but just basing your old arguments here from something that have happened before several years ago is just plain stupid and makes you looks bad, because everyone or most peoples improves over time.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4228 - 2014-06-26 17:09:23 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
And if you read my topic about my Rebirth 4 video, you will see that i'm taking the genuine criticisms to me and have noted it down. What i do react on is those guys who just trolls just because they can and just trolls and say things without even giving reasons for it.
Uh no, you were taking the light criticism and noting it down, discarding everything else as tears. You can selectively pick out the criticism if you want, but then nothing will change, you won;t learn anything and you'll remain ignorant. It was clear that there were several pieces of genuine criticism that many people agreed with, which you read then simply ignored because those people were "butthurt".

It's pretty clear that you didn't read my topic at all. Longer out in the topic i even quoted one player that gave me lots of genuine criticisms. I quoted him and said that i wanted peoples to give criticisms like he did gave me instead of giving me stupid replies of 'your movie sucks' and 'your videos are boring to watch'. I'm all fine that peoples says and means that, but at least they could give some reasons behind it on why they say that. Without criticisms where they explain on where i messed up and so on, then how can you expect me to improve when i can't really see where i need to improve?

Go read the topic again and go over it and you will find it where i ask for valdig criticisms several times. I got that sometimes, but most peoples was just trolling and bashing it because they could.

Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
So no, my new video will not have boring moments. And this time i'm not in a hurry either to make a video, so if it will take 1 year to make it, i will use 1 year to make sure it will be good.
I sincerely doubt that, but only time will tell.

And time will tell about how unnecessary your arguments here is.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4229 - 2014-06-26 18:08:40 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Just because you haven't hear about us, because your a 0.0 space carebear with no clues about empire, then it doesn't mean everyone else haven't heard about us. Again, i'm saying that everyone who have been doing empire wars and PVP and those who have been war dec'ed by us in empire knows who Rebirth is. That is a fact.
Because I was born in 0.0, and have absolutely no involvement in empire, right?

And yes, I'm sure people you dec have heard of you. That doesn't make you most feared lol. Show me where it's evidenced that most people feared you guys.

NightmareX wrote:
My attitude towards you is because you are talking right out of your ass, basicly. If you at least could have provided some sources to base your statements out of, then it would be better, but just basing your old arguments here from something that have happened before several years ago is just plain stupid and makes you looks bad, because everyone or most peoples improves over time.
LOL?
I'm talking out of my ass because I'm asking you to validate your claim that rebirth is the pinnacle of empire PvP? I've provided zkb, which shows you guys doing the Marmite hub and pipe camping, while you've shown nothing to show you guys eing elite at PvP. I'd provide things showing how little people cared about rebirth too, but it seems that people cared so little you were barely mentioned. Oh wait, they didn't post about you through fear, right?

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Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4230 - 2014-06-26 18:21:04 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
It's pretty clear that you didn't read my topic at all. Longer out in the topic i even quoted one player that gave me lots of genuine criticisms. I quoted him and said that i wanted peoples to give criticisms like he did gave me instead of giving me stupid replies of 'your movie sucks' and 'your videos are boring to watch'.
Yes, I saw where you selectively picked out the criticism you wanted to agree with.

NightmareX wrote:
Go read the topic again and go over it and you will find it where i ask for valdig criticisms several times. I got that sometimes, but most peoples was just trolling and bashing it because they could.
Most of the criticisms I read were valid, and on many occasions they explained why it was boring. A criticism isn't invalid just because you don't like it.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4231 - 2014-06-26 18:41:03 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Just because you haven't hear about us, because your a 0.0 space carebear with no clues about empire, then it doesn't mean everyone else haven't heard about us. Again, i'm saying that everyone who have been doing empire wars and PVP and those who have been war dec'ed by us in empire knows who Rebirth is. That is a fact.
Because I was born in 0.0, and have absolutely no involvement in empire, right?

And yes, I'm sure people you dec have heard of you. That doesn't make you most feared lol. Show me where it's evidenced that most people feared you guys.

Doesn't matter how much you have been in empire. You are not the one who talks for the rest of the peoples in empire. In fact, i live in empire everyday and have been living there for many many years, so i know how the drill is here.

Just because you are rare to find in empire, doesn't mean your lack of knowledge about us says that's you are right, because you are wrong when it comes to us.

Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
My attitude towards you is because you are talking right out of your ass, basicly. If you at least could have provided some sources to base your statements out of, then it would be better, but just basing your old arguments here from something that have happened before several years ago is just plain stupid and makes you looks bad, because everyone or most peoples improves over time.
LOL?
I'm talking out of my ass because I'm asking you to validate your claim that rebirth is the pinnacle of empire PvP? I've provided zkb, which shows you guys doing the Marmite hub and pipe camping, while you've shown nothing to show you guys eing elite at PvP. I'd provide things showing how little people cared about rebirth too, but it seems that people cared so little you were barely mentioned. Oh wait, they didn't post about you through fear, right?

What about you validate your claims that i didn't take valid criticisms to me instead?

And for the sake of god, don't link me the trollers that you THINK gives out criticisms lol.

And could you validate that some of the criticisms i didn't take to me isn't included in my note today on what to improve?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4232 - 2014-06-26 18:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
It's pretty clear that you didn't read my topic at all. Longer out in the topic i even quoted one player that gave me lots of genuine criticisms. I quoted him and said that i wanted peoples to give criticisms like he did gave me instead of giving me stupid replies of 'your movie sucks' and 'your videos are boring to watch'.
Yes, I saw where you selectively picked out the criticism you wanted to agree with.

And guess what?

Why do you think i did agree with them in the first place? It's still criticisms as far as i know.

Because they gave a very good explanation on what i did wrong and what i should improve on witch was the things i was asking after. Do you think i should agree with an argument like 'your movie sucks' or 'make it better' when that's not gonna help my case at all on how to make the video better when they can't even explain what's bad or wrong with the video?

Do you see why it's pointless to write such things when that's something they do to start a discussion war of some sort. Not only that, but many of those you takes as criticisms are peoples who loves to troll me. I have been playing this game since 2004, so i know that alot of peoples hates me and would do whatever to troll me no matter what (yes, i don't play this game to be famous, i'm playing this game to blow things up and have fun no matter what other thinks of me).

So there you have it.

Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Go read the topic again and go over it and you will find it where i ask for valdig criticisms several times. I got that sometimes, but most peoples was just trolling and bashing it because they could.
Most of the criticisms I read were valid, and on many occasions they explained why it was boring. A criticism isn't invalid just because you don't like it.

And a criticism is not a valid criticism if you can't explain your criticisms.

Saying 'your video sucks' or 'boring fights' is criticisms in a bad way where their meanings says i need to make a better video in a trollish way. Saying those things isn't there to improve things, it's there to bash peoples only because they can and because they think they are cool for bashing someone while they think they are better at making videos.

If i say that you are bad at PVP, i'm not saying it without giving out the source to your killboard before i say it.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Eyrun Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4233 - 2014-06-26 19:28:42 UTC
This thread is on the same level of entertainment as the "grr goons" threads. I would like to take the opportunity and thank Marmite for my first ever solo kill in EVE.

Standing so far:

Me 1 - 3 (+1 pod) Marmite =)

I'm sure we will meet again!

I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.

Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#4234 - 2014-06-26 21:12:56 UTC
Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding?

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4235 - 2014-06-26 21:20:01 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding?

I don't think you know the difference from telling some facts and having a hard on Lol.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#4236 - 2014-06-26 21:25:46 UTC
NightmareX wrote:

Anyone who lives or have been living in empire the last 3-4 years knows who Rebirth is. There is a reason why Rebirth / THE GOD SQUAD 2-3 years ago was the most feared corp / alliance in empire then.

So many feared us back then that no one / or most wouldn't fight us anylonger in the end because we did bring a fleet that others never couldn't break, basicly. They simply got tired of getting slaughtered every day.

Almost spit out my drink lol, nice one.

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4237 - 2014-06-26 22:25:04 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding?

I don't think you know the difference from telling some facts and having a hard on Lol.
lol, OK, so show us these facts. Show us where we can see that rebirth was globally feared for the 5 minutes they weren't disbanded and that Kai makes us all shudder in our boots at the mere mention of his name.
The fact is, Kai is a nobody, you are a nobody and rebirth where a failed group of nobodies. Just because you want to oil Kai up and chant his name doesn't mean the rest of the game needs to agree.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm a somebody, but then I'm not the one going on and on and on about how I'm ex rebirth like it means a damn thing.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#4238 - 2014-06-26 23:10:41 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding?

I don't think you know the difference from telling some facts and having a hard on Lol.

Rebirth, god squad, both nothing special, now that you have a super raging hard on for kai86 and its obvious with all the crap your posting about how Kai does this and that.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!

Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
#4239 - 2014-06-26 23:12:21 UTC
NightmareX wrote:


Again, you are linking something that's old. Lets forget about the past and concentrate on the future from today instead.

And to the last YouTube link, we aren't afraid to put up a fight even if we are outnumbered. That's the difference from Rebirth to other corps in empire that Rebirth have the balls to go into a fight outnumbered and outgunned where others would just dock up and log off for the same thing.


You speak as if you are the Alpha Males in highsec that other mercs are scared of.

1. How can you claim that is old? Before rebirth joined Marmite that is the last fight you all had together. In rebirth history, thats recent. That video was during your peak and you lost.

2. Did you just say to my alliance and BAW that you have the balls to fight outnumbered? When have you NOT outnumbered us? Do you only undock when you are outnumbered? You spared us every time?

3. Break-A-Wish foundation is the alliance that Rebirth(God Squad) is/was modeled after. If you want Merc respect, they are US timezone.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#4240 - 2014-06-26 23:47:01 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Saeger1737 wrote:
Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding?

I don't think you know the difference from telling some facts and having a hard on Lol.
lol, OK, so show us these facts. Show us where we can see that rebirth was globally feared for the 5 minutes they weren't disbanded and that Kai makes us all shudder in our boots at the mere mention of his name.

No, you have to provide the facts on your claims. It's you that are saying we are nobody and no one knows us. Try to go to any major trade hubs in EVE and ask about Rebirth in local and you will see what i'm talking about. Most peoples will most likely say they hate us over everything. Well, guess why they hate us?

Because we did kill them or inflicted huge amount of damage to them in some ways.

Lucas Kell wrote:
The fact is, Kai is a nobody, you are a nobody and rebirth where a failed group of nobodies. Just because you want to oil Kai up and chant his name doesn't mean the rest of the game needs to agree.

Uhm, it's pretty clear you have no idea who Kai86 is. He's pretty known to quite alot of players. I have known him for a long time and i know his whole story, so claiming he's a nobody is a bit loltastic.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm a somebody, but then I'm not the one going on and on and on about how I'm ex rebirth like it means a damn thing.

The thing that i'm ex-Rebirth means alot on. It means i know what i'm talking about when it comes to how Rebirth is and how they have been. You can't deny this.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama