Crime & Punishment

No Lucas you dont you really dont

Go build a ship or play with the market!

Your welcome back when you become a merc or learn to pew this is C&P not your SMA forums.

hahaha i know right you have had more kills on jita then me!!!

by your standards your just a hub camping scrub

I admit, I war dec alliances/corps for flying a Drake next to me in space. Multiple times a week

Lucas Kell, i usually agree with what you are saying. But in this case i have to say that i'm not agreeing with for many reasons. To say it short, we don't care about how we are getting our kills. As long as we have tons of fun and as long as we are killing tons of valuable assets in empire, we are doing all fine.

1. Why do you think i'm in Marmite now even though i was against them earlier and even made fun of them?

2. Why do you think we have the whole insane 15 trillion isk in kills in this small alliance of just ~230 members?

3. Why should we care about what others say about us when we have fun and gets tons of kills witch is the thing that matters?

4. We actually do get many good fights that i'm frapsing. A new upcoming video from me is under developments now.

So my guesses is that you have been killed or your alt have been killed by us where you have lost valuable items to us because we war dec'ed you as angry you are on us now.

Lastly, quite alot of the ex-Rebirth guys (like me) are in Marmite now where our brutal and experienced PVP skills from the Rebirth days of doing empire wars are all in action in this alliance now. So i can't see where Marmite are doing anything wrong or where it fails right now.

1. Who knows, ***** and giggles probably.

2. Killboard padding. It's been shown that padding killboard with industry kills is simple to do. Even Gevlon, pretty much the worst EVE player I know managed to get up to 100b a month with ganking, and that's without even having wardecs. You guys have 15T over 44 months which is 340b/month. Over 230 players that's 1.47b/month/player on average. Hardly a difficult target to hit.

3. You shouldn't, but some of you do. Unfortunately for you, you hae chosen to follow Tora, who is a bit of a pleb. He's decided to get you guys fully behinds Gevlons propaganda and make you the fact of the anti-goons, and in doing so likes the throw around killboard stats as if it proves competency, which it doesn't as shown above. The result of that is responses from players calling you guys out on it.

4. I'm sure some of you do, but overall as a group the majority of you don't. Good fights usually involve losses, since they are the ones where you have the most excitement, when there's a chance you might lose. That doesn't fit well with Tora's desire to throw around 90+% efficiency ratings so the majority of your group has to killboard pad in safety to ensure that it gets upheld. Look through the marmite killboard and you'll see this evidenced. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, the war against SMA that Tora likes to throw about, 80% of the kill value came from ships with no guns. I guarantee if you dig down into the rest only a tiny fraction at best would have been good fights.

Nope, I live in null and only ever use alts in highsec and those alts are in NPC corps. Up until you got bought out by Gevlon I had barely an idea of who you even were, just another one of those wardec groups which are a dime a dozen. It's a known fact that if you are in a null group, multiple groups of highseccers will wardec you nearly constantly for easy kills, and if you've been in null a while you will have learned to work around it. Pretty much the only reason I poke you guys with stick on here is that Tora behaves like a child and it's pretty amusing to prod people like that.

I'm really not sure why people like you chose Marmite to jump into, but I'm sure you''ll do well at holding them up. Even if you look at well before the who anti-goon thing, they were considered to be the joke of merc corps. Not many people really consider them to be mercenaries, just "those guys you see in Jita" more often than not.

You forgot one Tora

FAIL 6: Lucas thinking he knows everything about marmite by reading a clients blog and quickly glancing our K/B

1. No, i'm here because i like to do empire wars and i like to blow stuffs up and makes peoples cry. To have fun and to kill stuffs is what matters to me. Empire gives me easy and fast access to everything i need and it allows me to do PVP in a lag free environment where carrier blobbing and such isn't allowed (don't take me wrong, but i do like low sec though).

2. Like Tora said over: Space Monkeys : 27,55T / 2129 member / 64 months = 0,02B/player (Very close to 1,47B, lol). You must be doing something horribly wrong if you call 1.47B/player easy to get in that case. If that had been so easy, then why do your alliance only have 0.02B/player then?

3. No, i didn't follow Tora, because i did follow Kai86 that was my CEO in Rebirth earlier. He and other ex-Rebirth members decided to join Marmite, so i decided to follow that my self sometime later. And because i know Kai86 and know what he is capable of doing, it's not hard to decide on what corp i want to be in. When it comes to empire PVP, nothing beats Kai86. PERIOD.That's why i follow him.

4. The first fight in my video does have losses on our side. The fight landed at around 50-55% in damage done in isk for us in that fight. So yes, we do get good fights. My current video is only about 20% finished though, so i still have a long way to go before it's finished.

And now to the 2 last things. If you haven't been killed by us, then why are you so mad at us?

Did we hurt a friend of you in EVE or?

I didn't decide to jump into Marmite because i found it cool to do. I found it as a very good idea to do as many or most of the ex-Rebirth members had joined them. I'm ex-Rebirth and i know what we in Rebirth are capable of doing. So that's the reason i joined Marmite. Marmite simply turned out to be a much harder enemy to defeat after ex-Rebirth joined them.

lol, I'm not just quoting their killbaord. They want to flaunt their killboard and brag about how amazing they are because dumbasses look at the end numbers and say "yes they must be elite!". I'm just pointing out that it's not the case. I don't need to be an elite pvper to point out facts about their killboard being padded to hell with easy kills to make them look better than they are to the uneducated masses..

1. You clearly don't understand the meaning and what Mercenaries are?

Maybe the day you know what the meaning behind it is will be the day you will understand why our killboard is one of our most important tools for our business.

2. Who doesn't hate the Goonies?

Goons are the cancer of EVE like they have been for many years now.

3. The killboards are a huge part of our business. Without a killboard that shows how we roll, it means no Merc works for us. Just because you are jealous on us because we get so much kills, even from extremely bad noobs like you say we have in our alliance it doesn't mean we are doing bad or anything wrong. It just shows how we are doing our business.

Alot of us are earning tons of isks in empire by doing wars and we have tons of fun doing it. Can anything be better than that?

4. It's pretty clear that you don't know Tora at all.

5. I'll just repeat it. Tora is much smarter than you are, so deal with it. He's smart enough to deal 15 trillion isk in damage in an alliance with a bunch of noobs in it as you say our alliance have. If that's not smart, then i don't know.

1. Really?

So you don't carebear as you loves to do now for just for ***** and giggles?

2. Again, you don't get the concept of what Mercenaries are. The day you understand what that is will be the day you will realize that our killboard is our most important tool for our business. You should really start learning about what mercenaries are before you scream out about killboard stats and such.

3. You didn't read what i wrote. I said i did follow Kai86 that made me join the corp and alliance i'm in now. Tora has nothing to do with me joining this corp. Tora is just a leader who leads the alliance in the right direction and takes cares of all of the diplomatic stuffs. He do PVP sometimes to, so he's getting kills to when he have the time.

But again, Kai86 was the reason i joined this corp and alliance, because with him here i know i will get tons of action.

4. More and more in Marmite are now looking for good fights. Just because someone are sitting all day long in a trade hub and killing everything that undocks (witch actually is part of what a war is) it doesn't mean you have to take everyone under the same boat.

And to the last thing. Yes you are butthurt over us because we actually manages to get insanly high amount of kills isk wise every months with an alliance that have a buttload of noobs in it. If that's not great, then i don't know.