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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#4081 - 2014-06-14 11:42:12 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts!


Somebody needs a hug! Your continued roll out of the same obsessive quotes is sad very sad. I have to say you need to get a new violin as this one is out of tune.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4082 - 2014-06-15 00:18:40 UTC
Nikaroo wrote:
Oh boy. Every time I have a brief look at the Merc Posts in this forum I’m so glad we don’t have to kill any trees for this.
This is a merc thread?

Sol epoch wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts!
Somebody needs a hug! Your continued roll out of the same obsessive quotes is sad very sad. I have to say you need to get a new violin as this one is out of tune.
All the time it remains fact I'll continue to roll it out. Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4083 - 2014-06-15 00:21:10 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
And Alex, you might want to check your security, as it sucks.
And you're assuming yours is spot on? Lol

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#4084 - 2014-06-15 00:35:24 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
And Alex, you might want to check your security, as it sucks.
And you're assuming yours is spot on? Lol
I know we have spies and we also know who they are. But sometimes its good to use them Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4085 - 2014-06-15 07:20:09 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
And Alex, you might want to check your security, as it sucks.
And you're assuming yours is spot on? Lol
I know we have spies and we also know who they are. But sometimes its good to use them Twisted
To say I very much doubt that is an understatement, but then you never were the brightest spark.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Purity by Fire
Purity Tax Haven
#4086 - 2014-06-15 08:10:39 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts!


Trying to remember the last time I sat on a Jita undock.

Considering Jita is the main trade hub in EvE you really think Marmites will leave that system alone?.

Yes we camp pipes and search out fast strikes off them. End of the day we get kills in all the right places.Big smile

So like after 76 petitions I still dont have a logical normal answer.   Fly safe and fly true and use your headset on the Loo

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#4087 - 2014-06-15 09:53:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Lucas Kell wrote:
To say I very much doubt that is an understatement, but then you never were the brightest spark.
Are you trying to hurt my feelings Sad We all know you aren't that smart Lucas, but you get a hug for trying Big smile (and 2 smilies).

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Madame Trout
Doomheim
#4088 - 2014-06-15 10:54:04 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:


Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus.



Lucas Kell wrote:


but then you never were the brightest spark.



This is golden.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4089 - 2014-06-15 11:00:30 UTC
Purity by Fire wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Yup, pay Marmite to sit on the Jita undock and run away whenever someone undocks with a gun. If you are super lucky they will even ask their boss, Gevlon Goblin, to include you in one of his blog posts!


Trying to remember the last time I sat on a Jita undock.

Considering Jita is the main trade hub in EvE you really think Marmites will leave that system alone?.

Yes we camp pipes and search out fast strikes off them. End of the day we get kills in all the right places.Big smile
lol, you can beat around the bush all you want. You camp low risk areas so you can buff your efficiency by killing things that stand no chance while under the cover of neutral logi. You seem to think that if you can get your kill stats up people won't look at the actual content of the kills and just go "WOW AMIGAHDZ U R S LEETZ". To call what you guys do PvP is a large stretch. I've seen you guys go 5 on 1 vs a noobship, then run away when a single cruiser undocks.

Tora Bushido wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
To say I very much doubt that is an understatement, but then you never were the brightest spark.
Are you trying to hurt my feelings Sad We all know you aren't that smart Lucas, but you get a hug for trying Big smile (and 2 smilies).
Awww he's trying to bat it away with bad comebacks. How cute. Ah well, at some point you'll get the hint, I'm sure.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4090 - 2014-06-15 11:04:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Madame Trout wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus.
Lucas Kell wrote:
but then you never were the brightest spark.
This is golden.
That's a statement of fact, not an insult. Out of all of the traits Tora possesses, unfortunately smarts isn't one of them.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Madame Trout
Doomheim
#4091 - 2014-06-15 11:13:27 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Madame Trout wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus.
Lucas Kell wrote:
but then you never were the brightest spark.
This is golden.
That's a statement of fact, not an insult. Out of all of the traits Tora possesses, unfortunately smarts isn't one of them.


It's an insult, whichever way you want to paint it, but then I wouldn't expect a tryhard quasi-intellectual to be able to distinguish between enjoyment and obsession.

Yes Lucas, that was an insult.
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#4092 - 2014-06-15 11:24:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Madame Trout wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Madame Trout wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Tryhard comebacks and schoolyard insults are just a bonus.
Lucas Kell wrote:
but then you never were the brightest spark.
This is golden.
That's a statement of fact, not an insult. Out of all of the traits Tora possesses, unfortunately smarts isn't one of them.


It's an insult, whichever way you want to paint it, but then I wouldn't expect a tryhard quasi-intellectual to be able to distinguish between enjoyment and obsession.

Yes Lucas, that was an insult.



Lucas you really need to look back over the past couple of posts you made as you are digging such a large hole showing your obsession that even international rescue wouldn't be able to get you out. ISD Ezwal will be along soon to sweep up the popcorn.
I had a look at your personal KB by the way and fell off my chair with the sheer volume of your experience in PVP.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#4093 - 2014-06-15 12:13:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Copied from Reddit :

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Scout1Treia

Zkillboard is showing me ~15t isk for marmite's lifetime kills, feel free to tack on their 841b in losses for the following.

How many "noobs" does it take to equal 15t isk? If I kill a noob with 100 plex in the cargo, don't I get a pat on the back for the scope of the kill? So what if I kill 10,000 people, valued at 0.01 plex each (roughly 7m)? Is my ability to kill 10,000 separate people not an impressive success?

But wait, clearly they have an alliance-level initiative to kill their own alts, and thus are simply padding their killboard to no end. There are 248 people in the alliance as of the last API update, with a peak of roughly 300 at times. I will use the 300 number. Let me be incredibly generous (to you) and assume only 10% of their kills are padded by killing their own alts.

That is 1.5t isk. Yes, apparently marmite has sacrificed 1.5t isk to pad its killboards. That is a frankly ridiculous amount of wealth. Let's assume every marmite member contributed individually, though. That is 5b isk per member at those rates. Do you think that's a thing that's happening?

So marmite has 13.5t isk in legitimate kills, and each member has still hemorrhaged 5b to pad the killboard a bit. This is still a ridiculous number of kills. At those rates, each individual kill they have ever achieved averages ~100m isk. Autopiloting shuttles are not worth 100m isk each. This insane, completely nonsensical fantasy that "marmite only kills noobs and autopiloting shuttles!!" is something you have invented. It has no basis in fact.


Space Monkeys are good Marmite Food : 92B killed and 0,3B loss (maybe Lucas should educate the Monkeys)

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4094 - 2014-06-15 12:45:10 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Lucas you really need to look back over the past couple of posts you made as you are digging such a large hole showing your obsession that even international rescue wouldn't be able to get you out. ISD Ezwal will be along soon to sweep up the popcorn.
I had a look at your personal KB by the way and fell off my chair with the sheer volume of your experience in PVP.
lol, I'm sure he will, since Tora usually reports any criticism as off topic. Can;t have silly things like the truth getting in the way of you guys pretending to be mercs eh?

And yes, I'm an industrialist and generally a logi pilot in fleets, so I don't expect and neither do I claim to have a good killboard. I could do what you guys do and pad it out with 10 on 1 T1 industrial kills and 5 on 1 noobship kills, but I don't think padding a killboard so I can go "look at these numbers FAP FAP FAP" shows any level of skill.

Tora Bushido wrote:
Copied from Reddit :

Quote:
Some bad math
Did Gevlon get involved in writing that, since that's about his usual level of math. "If I take some numbers, add a whole bunch of assumptions, carry the one and take away rand(), we're doing great!". The fact remains that your killboard clearly shows kills in safe system where you commonly camp gates or stations in large numbers. The kills are generally mission ships, haulers, miners and the like. Very few of your kills are actual combat ships and the ones that are are often way outnumbered. I have watch you first hand running from odds even remotely approaching even and seem you guys light up the neutral logi when things don't go your way. To suggest you are even remotely competent is ludicrous.

And you have to bear in mind, no matter how much you kick and scream about how amazing you are, people can see the facts for themselves.

And sure, SMA have lost some random ships to you. and what, 65% of it is industrial ships? 15% pods? Sure, you are mega pr0! I wish I could kill things that have no guns on them too! lol
Seriously, you and your boss need to stop basing absolutely everything on numbers alone. There's this thing called context which actually matters. Ganking industrial ships doesn't make you an elite PVPer. If it did, I'm definitely an elite PVPer from burn Jita alone.

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#4095 - 2014-06-15 16:21:55 UTC
I never understood why people *coughlucascough* go on and on about bad mouthing marmite for being in Jita or killing industrial ships. They show a severe lack of comprehending basic Eve mechanics and laws. It's like the people that start threads about being ganked in highsec or having their assets stolen. "How could this happen!? This isn't right!" Just sort of a total disconnect from what the game is.

Here's the deal, nobody cares if Marmite is "elite pvp." What they care about is that when they give money to Tora, that money makes it so that whoever they are hired to fight, doesn't get to comfortably move through highsec to any of the major trade hubs. That's an important tactical factor. Most importantly, nobody cares how they do it so long as they do it. Results matter, that's it.

It doesn't matter if they don't line up in fair 10v10 tourny style fights. In fact I don't even want them to bother shooting pvp ships. I want them to go after the fat hauler or slow industry ship making it hell for X alliance to do anything in Jita, Amarr, etc. And I know they do a good job, not because of any killboards, but because of guys like you whining up and down their thread.

Listen, I don't know you personally and I don't remember ever speaking with you before, but you're doing yourself a disfavor by going on and on here.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#4096 - 2014-06-15 16:38:58 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
To suggest you are even remotely competent is ludicrous.

Clearly, 15 trill in destroyed ISK is a sign of incompetence. Uh huh.
Lucas Kell wrote:
There's this thing called context which actually matters.

The context is: 15 trill in destroyed ISK. That's pretty much the Alpha and Omega right there. Not that I really think you know what that means, but there you go.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#4097 - 2014-06-15 17:37:34 UTC
Ok, I will stop it now. As I was thought not to play with my food.

Join Marmites today, if you want mega tears, good loot, lot's of laughing

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4098 - 2014-06-15 18:54:26 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
I never understood why people *coughlucascough* go on and on about bad mouthing marmite for being in Jita or killing industrial ships. They show a severe lack of comprehending basic Eve mechanics and laws. It's like the people that start threads about being ganked in highsec or having their assets stolen. "How could this happen!? This isn't right!" Just sort of a total disconnect from what the game is.
It's not how they fight, it's that they and their almighty leader Gevlon then proceed to chestbeat and tell everyone how superior they are for it. Nobody gives a crap about a group of gankers saying "look at my killboard, want to touch my epeen?"

Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Here's the deal, nobody cares if Marmite is "elite pvp." What they care about is that when they give money to Tora, that money makes it so that whoever they are hired to fight, doesn't get to comfortably move through highsec to any of the major trade hubs. That's an important tactical factor. Most importantly, nobody cares how they do it so long as they do it. Results matter, that's it.
You mean there are really people out there who think they are actually mercs and actually pay them to do stuff? There's at least half a dozen merc corps out there who could actually pose a threat and who you would actively avoid. Marmite wardecs pretty much just mean I roll with a combat alt ahead of me so they all dock up. Who pays for mercs that can't actually fight? If you just want people ganked, there's groups that will do that for free.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4099 - 2014-06-15 18:58:19 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
To suggest you are even remotely competent is ludicrous.

Clearly, 15 trill in destroyed ISK is a sign of incompetence. Uh huh.
Lucas Kell wrote:
There's this thing called context which actually matters.

The context is: 15 trill in destroyed ISK. That's pretty much the Alpha and Omega right there. Not that I really think you know what that means, but there you go.
It's certainly not a sign of competence, it's a sign that they can gank people in industrial ships. You have to be pretty dumb to look at a single number and think that tells the entire story lol, but that's what they rely on, idiots thinking it means they are leet.

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#4100 - 2014-06-15 18:58:24 UTC
Doesn't matter if they can fight or not. Call them **** if you like but the fact remains they'll hurt your empire logistics. And that's a service plenty of people are paying for.