Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And that's one of the upsides that are missed. You don't have to buy five augmented hammerheads, with the Gila you can get the same effect (and more!) of five, all at 40% of the cost.

This.

That is the big thing for me, it's fun to fly, not stuck on one place because of sentries. Last night (just doing some PVE) I watched MEDIUM drones get 6-700 point hits on things and 1600 to 2k point hits on hull after shields and armor was down. It was honestly crazy lol.

I've always hated how 'weak' drones were, but the ones that spew forth from the Gila are less like Drones and more like 'automated companion assault frigs' (copyright Jenn aSide 2014 ). I simply don't see how people are complaining about them.

So again (lol) you are saying you don't know what people mean when they say 'apply damage' in EVE. How well is that sentry drone going to apply damage to a frig sized ship (sleeper or otherwise) that's orbiting at 2.5 km? which one is going to do full damage to a cruiser sized at all. Hell, which one (medium drone or sentry) can even HIT a cruiser sized target under 11km without assistance of webs/TP?

And why is you drone 60 km from you in the 1st place?

As for showing it, so you really mean I need to fraps a wormhole site just to show you what I mean? Like hell lol. I don't care if you understand this or not. Fly the Gila or not, like the Gila or not, it doesn't matter to me (but you're missing out on an awesome ship if you don't).

I'm simply explaining that you are doing it wrong (really wrong lol), and since you are doing it wrong, you've come to the wrong conclusions about the changes that almost every one else have adapted to. The changes to the Guristas ships are now pure awesome (for those of us who know the game), 'super drones' (ie super bonused drones launched from the 32 guristas ships) are one of the best additions to the game in years as far as Im concerned. I spent all day at work waiting to get home just so i could get back to my Gila (well, my Gila and my Beer).

Sell yours if you don't like it.

I'm really happy for you, an NO I'm not sarcastic. I am genuinely happy that there are people who are enjoying the new updates and new ships. I my self am not as much. But that how life works fore some one to get something other must loose. I agree that "medium" and "lights" are not supposed to fly further than 10k away from your ship, and I also agree that with carefully chosen equipment you could do pretty good and keep those drones alive and not to get agroed. But that was not my point. My point in the beginning was that EVE as a game, didn't need another "pvp brawler" since it had so many! Especially with new faction and ships with it (Garmur, Orthrus and what ever was the battleship called) they all are "brawlers" now you don't have as versatile ship as Gila was. I'm not saying that you can't use it, I'm just saying that you can't use it for the same things you could up until "Kronos". Now you can't do C5's you simply can't. You Might do C3's with a lot of struggle but that's it.
And again I'm not "hating" just for no reason. I'm disappointed that CCP is turning the EVE into one big PvP arena, and players who are not into that are getting constantly undermined and "ships of choice" are changing more and more into PvP ships. Which in the end just leaves me that I used to (like you) just waiting to get done with my work and get online do something fun and joyful, but now it has passed two days I didn't even bother to log on since they took that away from me. I basically have to go and get some other ship (if there is any left) to do, what I was doing so far and what I was enjoying.




I agree, that most what I would be missing are sentries and whole pack of "util" drones in my cargo hold :( mostly salvage and repair drones :( but as I was reading there is still a tiny glimpse of hope in Astero even though for me it's one ugly ship but it's pretty close to what Gila was ;)

Stratios dps hasn't changed much unless you were using Gardes/Bouncers beforehand. All other drones either were buffed or remained the same.

Ok ccp jokes over go ahead put the Vigilant back as it was...

My corp mate was insta-popped in a Hawk by the Gila's Valkyries. 2000+ damage in a single volley. Crazy stuff.

No one want to kite in a vigilant

Then don't. It still has enough PG with a t2 ACR rig to fit all neutrons + 1600mm plate, just not a t2 plate. Your dreams weren't crushed, rofl.

Also, if your argument is that people don't want to kite with fast, range bonused hulls with a strong bonus to range dictation (webs), then you better think again. How often is the new Garmur LML fit? What about the Crow? Orthrus? Ever seen a brawling fit Rapier? How about an Arazu? Granted, those last two have different reasons (range bonuses, paper thin tank [even Crow can fit more tank relative to its weight class]) for being far away from their victims, but their bonuses ARE geared towards locking enemies down (extreme web/scram range)

Rail Daredevil has been a thing for quite some time in frigate PvP, and now the Vigilant can do the same thing - just bigger.

Is there a reason only one of the drone bay doors stays open (left side) and are these supposed to close during warp? Just wondering if this is a graphics glitch on my end.