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A message regarding reported layoffs at CCP

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#121 - 2014-06-06 10:43:26 UTC
I wonder if the ones that made tooltips are going? I highly doubt it, we need those types to fix things that are not broken.

Poorly run company, is poorly run.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#122 - 2014-06-06 10:50:57 UTC
Whenever a project fails the management should be the first to get the axe. It's their responsibility to make the project work, it's the sole reason they are even paid. If the project fails, it's their failure for one reason or another. They can't even blame the other staff for it because it's the management that hires and motivates the staff. Having those failures bounce from project to project, company to company and ******* one up after another seems to be epidemic in the games industry. I just can't wrap my head around how such incompetence can be tolerated.
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#123 - 2014-06-06 10:54:35 UTC
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#124 - 2014-06-06 10:55:17 UTC
Domania wrote:
Pine Marten wrote:
Psssshhhhhh!

Needs a little more... Psssssshhhhhhh...

Ok.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#125 - 2014-06-06 11:00:58 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Domania wrote:
Pine Marten wrote:
Psssshhhhhh!

Needs a little more... Psssssshhhhhhh...

Ok.


Ok where the hell did this meme come from and when? :P
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#126 - 2014-06-06 11:03:57 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Ok where the hell did this meme come from and when? :P

“Meme” is a bit much, at least yet. It comes from the Guardian article on WoD, about ⅓ through.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#127 - 2014-06-06 11:04:38 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

You can keep that post as an example of denialism. I've since changed my mind about this whole thing. I'm pretty upset about it.


I think it may be safe to assume that the June Financials will be very bad. I'd also like apologies, or isk, from those you you who said I was off my rocker about how things were going at CCP.

A lot of you mocked me, but I think that this latest round of layoffs shows that I most likely nailed it on the head when I called it back in April.
Noriko Mai
#128 - 2014-06-06 11:11:51 UTC
But they still have the 'The world is a Microtransaction' EA guy, right? He will save CCP, right?

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein

JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#129 - 2014-06-06 11:18:26 UTC
I know I say it during every crisis..... But I really wish Curzon was around to write a song about this.
Solecist Project
#130 - 2014-06-06 11:21:14 UTC
Wow, people are surprised by the fact that higher uppers have writers?

People probably think politicians speak freely too, hu?


Common sense. What? Never heard of it?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Ospie
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2014-06-06 11:23:10 UTC
Just signing in to say that I'm disappointed with this news, I'm sad to see these guys go, I wish them all the very best of luck.

CCP, you need to get your **** together. I love the devs and their interaction with us both through the game itself, forums, and the likes of fanfest, I don't want to see anything to happen to them, however the management seems to need a shake down from the top.. Especially the top.

I would rather have CCP keep their employees than see further development on dust and the like, at least until their management starts earning its keep.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#132 - 2014-06-06 11:31:37 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Solecist Project wrote:
Wow, people are surprised by the fact that higher uppers have writers?

People probably think politicians speak freely too, hu?


Common sense. What? Never heard of it?


I don't see this the same way... It was written in a personal soul searching sort of way. If that makes any sense. I can't think of another way to describe it. Especially due to what was happening at the time when this was written to diffuse the entire situation.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672

Though that doesn't mean I really even care about it. I never put much stock in that apology in the first place. Not even when it was first published.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#133 - 2014-06-06 11:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.

We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Solecist Project
#134 - 2014-06-06 11:40:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
JC Anderson wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Wow, people are surprised by the fact that higher uppers have writers?

People probably think politicians speak freely too, hu?


Common sense. What? Never heard of it?


I don't see this the same way... It was written in a personal soul searching sort of way. If that makes any sense. I can't think of another way to describe it. Especially due to what was happening at the time when this was written to diffuse the entire situation.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672

It does not matter how you see it. Pretty much everyone out there who speaks in public
has a writer. There is no surprise here, except the lack of common sense of people.

This just proves once more how gullible people are.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#135 - 2014-06-06 11:48:11 UTC
Apology letter written by fiction department. FICTION.

Invalid signature format

Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#136 - 2014-06-06 11:54:32 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Domania wrote:
Pine Marten wrote:
Psssshhhhhh!

Needs a little more... Psssssshhhhhhh...

Ok.


Ok where the hell did this meme come from and when? :P


I like it. It has a certain je ne sais quoi about it. The onomatopoeia is portentous as well, as all that money was ultimately pissed up the wall.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#137 - 2014-06-06 12:02:01 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:

We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info..


Point of fact, you can read the investor reports and six month financials and get the info first hand.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2014-06-06 12:11:08 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.

We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info.
I fully agree with Kane here, though it is a pretty unavoidable side effect of a Community that cares about the game and the people behind it.


I do find it amusing how people are easily fooled by simple journalistic tricks such as this one:

Eventually CEO Hilmar Veigar Pétursson issued an apology to the players. But even this short appeasement wasn’t what it seemed; according to Blood, Petursson didn’t actually write it.

“He had members of our storyline team – a group responsible for writing in-game content and fiction – put it together,” he says. “He was either so out of touch, so arrogant, or perhaps both, that he couldn’t find the words to say himself. They bailed him out big time.”


The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! Lol While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it.

Truth is, very few people actually know if Mr. Petursson was really arrogant or, on the contrary, humble enough to seek expert help in wording his own, heartfelt, thoughts on a matter of significant importance to the company he leads.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#139 - 2014-06-06 12:19:24 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! Lol While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it.
How else would they have done it and still be journalists rather than CCP employees?
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#140 - 2014-06-06 12:21:25 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.

We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info.
I fully agree with Kane here, though it is a pretty unavoidable side effect of a Community that cares about the game and the people behind it.


I do find it amusing how people are easily fooled by simple journalistic tricks such as this one:

Eventually CEO Hilmar Veigar Pétursson issued an apology to the players. But even this short appeasement wasn’t what it seemed; according to Blood, Petursson didn’t actually write it.

“He had members of our storyline team – a group responsible for writing in-game content and fiction – put it together,” he says. “He was either so out of touch, so arrogant, or perhaps both, that he couldn’t find the words to say himself. They bailed him out big time.”


The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! Lol While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it.

Truth is, very few people actually know if Mr. Petursson was really arrogant or, on the contrary, humble enough to seek expert help in wording his own, heartfelt, thoughts on a matter of significant importance to the company he leads.


I think they are likely predisposed to feeling he is arrogant or whatever from what has happened in the past prior to this point. The greed is good leak for example. Or the later interviews after that whole thing.

Or what is written on glassdoor.

Is saying he is Arrogant justified from those factors? I have no idea, but they may think so.

However... Out of touch? Yeah I would say it fits.