Player Features and Ideas Discussion

They are super ***** kiting Alpha cunts.

The missile delay between cycle and hit is almost nonexistent the Missile speed bonus is incredibly awesome and may be the "solution" to solving the delayed DPS problem.

But ya. 10-15 dudes in Orthrus can dish out some pretty high Alpha, and probably never get caught if they are flying right. Barghest is pretty strong as well against like sized ships.

It will be interesting to see what happens as the market becomes saturated with these things. Ive personally found 3 Frigs and a Cruiser since patch day, I want to say these ships spawn with even more frequency than the Transport Ships, then again I never actually spent time hunting down transports so they could be the same.

The price on these ships will probably drop like a rock before months end, perhaps even to the point of being on the cheaper side of Pirate Faction ships, assuming the other 20 *actual* people who live in Lowsec are looking for them too.

i'm using Mjolnir Precision Heavy Missile on my Orthrus and i was surprised, that EVE telling me thous missiles can fly 47km.
In fact i was trying to shoot Eagle today. It was floating near undock with speed = 300m/s. And missiles started to heat Eagle when i aproached at 37-38km. I wonder if this is fine or CCP going to do somthing with that?

Dude they listen to the player base all the time. Back during the halloween war my (and many others) biggest complaint was how much load on the servers drones were producing (ie tidi). It took a while, but they took some positive action to combat it. Much of the drone changes we are seeing now are a result of this feedback. Gila's with TWO drones? this is a precedent folks. I bet eventually we will all get to field only one drone (Gecko anyone?)

Winner=Hamsters

garmur - strong , more op than up. But i would say at good place. It's fine.

orthrus - rather op , got one myself - sold as price is outrageous now. Way too strong compared to competition (except gila who is stupid op like worm). Would see damage bonus per level dropped to 17,5% or 15%. It will still rock with that change. Just less ... hopefully. 10 effective launchers and full flight drones make ships like Caracal navy issue or osprey navy issue just a joke. Of course price tag is diffrent - but still difference is way too big. Ship is supposed to be better via t1 < navy < pirate. Not t1 < navy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< pirate.

If it was just damage, i would be calm ... ok. But its insane speed, insane point range combined with almost insta hitting missiles (just turrets without tracking i would say). On top of that can use any damage type on both drones and missiles.

Hammer really should hit it along with Gila , rather sooner than later. Yet gila must receive massive nerf not slight. Orthrus can go along with small.

Barghest - ship looks awesome like all Mordu ships. Yet it's not strong as garmur or orthrus in their respective classes.
Does it mean its weak ? Not at all. But it's just not broken ... it may be healthy in the end as it should avoid nerf hammer in future.
All in all decent , unique ship. And the design - worth just for the last part ;pp.

Lost my first garmur because of DD...


Ship itself feels strong but thats about it. That feeling comes not from the damage not from the tank.
Its just the long range point and missile range that gives the ship alot of staying power on grid.

you can kite as long as you wish unless you **** up.

the speed without fitting mods is slower than most ceptors, pirate frigs (dd,dram) and is catchable.
My next fit will be modified since i know exactly what would save me today.


In general its a beefed up crow with more range less speed.
the missile vel bonus makes the damage aplication to frigates quite good. It hits nearly perfectly though doesnt really feel op
since the dps itself is kinda low.


Cant say anything about the criuser yet those price a ridiciulous.


CCP should consider adding more agents or do something abou t aquiring those bpc so we can actually buy those ships

but from what i saw on sisi 100mn snaked tengu is still boss and about same price as the orthus

Why? Vindicators used to go for around $1.4-billion, and you've seen the Nestor - right? They were trying to get upwards of $5-billion on the first day, and they've only been out a week...

I hear what you're saying - it's still rather expensive. I've already paid for the difference in mine several times over.

Everything is good with HG pirate imps. Get a breacher with links, HG crystals and blue pill and it actually solos cynabal+orthrus. Would die within 10 seconds without imps/drugs/links. But hey, 16 kills undefeated.

That guy is among the most famous example of clueless inhabitant of this forums. Everything is horrible and minmatar is completely OP always for him. So better to not answer and not feed him...

There is a difference between EVERYONE Max fitting pods/ships, and a very large minority doing so. I would wager that at best maybe 10% of all pilots actively fly around in HG's, with 6% implants, and Faction Fit all the things. Probably even less than that to be quite honest.