Out of Pod Experience

that's the presentation made at a public event, not users playing on their home systems....slight difference you know.

And CCP only discovered this after 11 years on the market?......Horseshit.

I'll say it again...11 years isn't a cautious approach, it's about not giving a crap about rapid releases and being satisfied with 2 expansions per year, even if the content for a given expansion has been ready for months like it was said in the last Fanfest a few weeks ago.


So after all this time, something is driving this change in policy to release content as soon as it's ready and not package it into a larger expansion, and it might be people getting fed up with the slow pace content releases, and a lot of that content doesn't interest them at all, and quiting the game rather than waiting however long it takes to see something that does interest them.



I haven't had anything interesting me for the last couple of years now and have pretty much achieved everything that the game allows, be it isk, skills, implants, ships and this upcoming Kronos expansion only has the Mordu battleship that might interest me and buy it.....I do not care about industry at all.

It didn't flop. It's rep was damaged from a buggy release, it grew slower than some hype-bubble game, but it didn't flop. I never said it flopped. One of the best mmo's ever made, actually.

You seem to want to change our conversation to something else, your bitter feelings with CCP that they are not catering to your personal ideas of what EVE should be or become despite it's broader communities interests. I have no problems with EVE's direction, not since they wiped out WiS development and refocused on fixing the game. Couple things in that irritate me, with new things replacing old things that worked, but not enough to loose perspective and throw my hopes and feelings onto a yet un-released game, to get all emotionally tied to some marketing execs hype machine.

Like I've said before in this thread, I've seen it all, such as with Black Prophecy which was the second coming you would think by all the fandom pre-launch chantings (Fan: a fanatic to a thing or cause). Then there are other internet spaceship games, maybe since they are not named Star Citizen you never heard of. All of which have launched and didn't miss launch release dates so miserably. Last moment delay announcement is just a horrible approach to game development, specifically to a launch. Only shows incompetence by the developers, expect to be disappointed in that way many times to come.

I can only guess. It could be because of competition and if thats the case then great, good to see CCP looking at other games coming and adjusting accordingly. Smart companies do that, others wait till they are overtaken to adjust and wind up losing RIAA, and blockbuster come to mind. It could also be the change in focus. Valk and Eve being on pc, and the metrics for Dust was not where ccp wanted them to be. So they decided to refocus, and if you have three games coming, if they happen to all be on the same server, doing 2 expansion per game, would be hard pressed, esp if you have stuff going into all three games. I'm sure they ran into issues doing that with Dust and EvE and went 'gee this is not working out so well...'

Boo knows the reason, who cares. If EvE gets better cause of it great. Just like if SC which i still think is vaporware, comes into being and both games are successful then cool. I just happen to think SC will flop and Elite will succeed.

With that, i'll ask the only SC active fan boy left a question. As this is SC vs. EvE, nd you clearly have more info then i did, and mines a few months old.

How is SC going to handle both looting, and 'owning systems' compared to eve?

No idea about system ownership, they may have talked about that at some point in one of those Wingman's Hangar episodes. However there was a recent article on their site about their debris manager, basically a component of the game responsible for generating and tracking all the chunks of ships that are blown off during battles. They talked about being able to tractor them in and strip weapons and resources from them, so presumably the loot system won't be a "wreck" per se, but a debris field.

The manager also tracks the objects so they can be hazards in flight (you could run into debris you shot off your opponents as it flies around).

So you still haven't answered why they did change methodologies after all this time?


See I had this impression that the game is primarily about flying ships in space, and well apart from constantly rebalancing the existing ships, and adding a couple of new ones that don't require any new training, and for those who have been around for a few years and can fly everything in game, right up to all titans in my case, there seems to be a lack of anything to aim for in that aspect for the older crowd in game.


Seems we're being forgotten and the aim is to make it easier for the new players joining the game, and since CCP marketed the game as one no one can complete and here I am with 11 years of it and not much left to aim for, seems i'm entitled to call CCP liars even if the old players represent a tiny portion of the player base.


The one thing you'll never see me doing is being a supporter of the game and not criticizing fuckup's on CCP's constantly changing strategy for content releases and really abandoning projects they were aiming for over the years.

All that was said was that some content was finished for months before being released into the usual expansion package, either the summer or winter one, but that doesn't qualify as why the change after 11 years on the market.



Do you know how many times the same ships have been rebalanced in 11 years?.....I don't have enough fingers in both hands to count them all, so seriously stop with the ass licking, it's embarrassing.



And another spin and another spin and another spin.....Look no further how many times has industry been redone in these 11 years and here we are with the next expansion focusing on that once more, and this time with no limit on the amount of slots available to build and no limits to research slots and productivity slots on BPC's in an effort to make the game even more watered down....

Do I need to say more?




Indeed, wake up and smell the path the game has taken over the last several years where a lot of ideas that were worked on for years have been abandoned, and all we got is this watered down version and it isn't attracting new players despite CCP trying hard to make it a lot easier than it used to be in the early years.

Space Engineers looks beast mode too. I will probably give that a try once I get my new laptop.