Player Features and Ideas Discussion

guess that means we can change DSTs back to a sensible size so we can put them in the orca after all.

edit: it helps if i get my short hand right.

I don't even know why he thinks not having that restriction in place is a good idea.
It's like he actually wants people to be using DSTs to turn carriers into even better versions of poor man's JF than they already are. Would you even need the skill to fly the DST in order to use it in that manner?

If you put the DST into the carrier's SMA, can you still access its fleet hangar?

I don't think my hauler alt will ever touch his Iteron V again after June 3rd.

Consider the same change for the Orca. Having three holds is a pain for mining. You need to shuffle ore between the three holds while you are filling, then empty three when dumping. Its extra clicks for no apparent improvement in game play.

@Fozzie,

Could you please reconsider the +5% Velocity (per skill level) attribute for DST's? This attribute seems really out of place, a -2% MMJD spool time, improved align time, armour bonus, or anything else would be good. I guess with these changes, the velocity modifier would work well with the burst tank defence, as I assume you want to tank as much as possible, while travelling as fast as possible to the gate you just entered from.

does the cargobays on DST remain un-scannable, and is this also applied to the fleet hangar on the DST ?

I dont believe DSTs were ever unscannable. The blockade runners are. However this might be a nice addition depending on some things.

Ok, some interesting concerns have been brought up that I think are reflective of a few symptomatic problems we're having here, and some answers that might help.

1. People complaining about how DST are superseding orcas for transport purposes.

OF COURSE THEY ARE. Orcas were never intended to be the go-between of the indies and freighters. It is an industrial command ship, and should stick to presiding over mining ops. While its myriad hangers and utility is nice, its intended role is NOT courier work. DSTs are being put where they should be, which is secure hauling of large amounts of goods, between industrials and freighters.

2. The ships are becoming too homogenous.

Yes they are, and while they could have a little more in the way of difference, I have agree that their particular roles don't exactly demand a wide variety out of them. Despite this, I would very much like to see the mastodon and occater get their speed bonus replaced with agility, and the bustard and impel get missile bonuses with a slot or two swapped for two highs each, and given a total of 4 launchers with bonuses (5% firing rate for impel, 10% kin damage for bustard) to give them the option to fight back a little or be used in defensive exotic pvp situations. An unbonused drone bay on the occator for 20/40 bandwidth and space would be very nice.

3. This will change wh landscape, especially C1.

I admit that this is a pretty severe issue that needs some serious consideration. Here's a pretty simple solution: increase the mass of the larger cargo haulers, both the DSTS and their t1 counterparts, to quite a bit larger than they are, and possibly the model a bit too. If they can haul battleships around in their cargohold, they should be roughly around the same size of them, and almost as heavy.
This would balance some of the mass-limit issues that are being raised, and can easily integrated statistically and lore-wise since much of their statistics outline them as being quite a bit larger than their fast-transport counterparts, and lore-wise it already makes sense considering the spaciousness of their holds and how the 'stronger' t2 materials can compensate for more base interior room for these proportionately cavernous fleet hangers.

Some problems never existed.