EVE General Discussion

The very fact that you felt obligated to post this seems to indicate your anti-rmt operations are not working as well as you'd like.

Or are people finally realizing that CCP is full of grandiose dreams and empty promises and have stopped buying plex at a sustainable level....

Thread lacks info regarding success over RMT and EULA violators.

There are players who do far worse in this game than botting and are much bigger parasites to the community, yet CCP rarely gives them more than a smack on the wrist.

CCP should change their attitudes towards players who choose to bot for easy ISK but do not RMT. They view all botters as vermin; meanwhile cyberbullies and the like are rarely headhunted unless a CSM member blogs about it.

I support the rules against botting and RMTing but I believe they need to treat the non-RMTing botters with more respect considering their leniency when it comes to griefers and other EULA/TOS breakers. I understand botting affects their bottom-line which is why they are so concerned. It sends the wrong message though when they show this much concern when it's about money, and far less concern when it's about their players being victimized.

I have reported people for botting before, and most of the time they end up banned. Within a few days.
I have also reported people before for insults/offensive/hate speech, sourcing up to a dozen examples sometimes. Not once have I seen any of these players banned or even muted.

It's not right that they viciously go after those who affect them, and do nothing about those who don't.

So basically what you're saying is that cheating is okay, so long as they don't RMT the ill-gotten gains of their cheating? Really?

Botting represents an economic faucet that mere mortal players with lives and jobs and sleep requirements cannot hope to match. They're treated as "vermin" because in a game that revolves around a player-run economy, their operations are to the detriment of every single legitimate player in the game.

Actual "griefing" is extremely rare in Eve, and is, in fact, handled by the GMs. You are most likely utilizing your own definition of the term, and not CCP's. Merely subjecting you to some form of in-game adversity does not constitute "griefing".

The Rules:

21. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.

Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.


I left it out because I didn't apply it...

I believe it when those well-advertised russian goldseller sites that exist for years (and even officially registered and pay taxes under russian law!) suddenly disappear or stop selling ISK.
Your team have people who monitor and make purchases from russian-only sites (including communication with "live operators"), isn't it?

Pot=/=kettle?

I like the idea of a team spending their time on infiltrating RMT ops. You are correct, their weakness IS money. Due to that weakness they will not be picky about who they sell too. It must be rather easy to figure these people out, every encounter I have had with isk sellers has been wildly amusing. They appear to lack any understanding of language or syntax.


Where might I go to find a spreadsheet of all the illegal isk removed? I want to see charts and graphs of this.

That would be kind of neat. Instead of the "WANTED" text it would say "CHEATER" and their bio would be permanently replaced with the EULA or something. CCP could probably also add a prefix to their in-game name for easy differentiation.

And mandatory Groucho Marx goggles.

Haven't cracked it open in a while, but didn't ISK: The Guide used to have an old advertisement for PLEX? Something about a guy caught doing RMT having all his stuff stripped from him, and then saying "Don't be this guy", or something along those lines?