Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I asked and got a negative on that one. Sorry, but at least you do have an answer. (And yes, I like flying an Orca now and again as well.)

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I've gotten 16 pages in and wanted to get my thoughts out before continuing. I have a couple added suggestions, some not quite as great as others.

If there is not a serious balance issue that I am aware of can we introduce that a focused T2 Hictor point stop a spool up as well as scrambler? I feel like this is an idea worth considering as the focused script only tackling supers is very niche and Hictor's as a whole are used for this purpose probably more than the actual bubbling. Though I know for wormholing it is more common.
The focused disruption script for the T2 module is what I mean if that sounds confusing.

Second idea: Introduce a Jump Disrupt Probe for the Interdiction Sphere Launcher (oldschool name dunno if its still called this) that stops all MJD spool ups or at least if it isnt already spooling it cannot be activated, similar to the warp if you initiate warp before a bubble goes down it basically negates it. I mention this idea as it gives more credibility to some earlier posts about the Dictor being more obsolete. Introduce an expanded launcher variant but it takes more fitting and even with crazy implants/rigs you can only fit one as opposed to the standard two launcher cloaky fit. Or give the role penalty of only one may be fitted as some other classes have for other modules.

Also final idea: maybe give the MJD similar mechanics of an acceleration gate. Once the spooling has started only a scrambler can deactivate as is now but if Hictor points it with its script the spooling continues but also prevents it from being activated like a scrambler if it is not already spooling. Just in case none of these were proposed in the thread or in internal discussions already I thought I'd take a whack at it.

Thoughts?

That's fine, because I was replying to the people asking for RR stacking penalties. I've edited the post to make that clear.
If you want my comprehensive reply regarding MMJD it's on the previous page.

I seriously disagree that we shouldn't post killboard links here. In balance discussions they can be quite helpful. I think CCP should revisit their rules in this case.

Please accept my apology. I take issue with one word posts but your earlier one was anything but that. That post was to the point and well done (regardless of whether I agree or not, I appreciate constructive arguments for and against a concept)

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You don't really need to apologize, it's not a big deal. But thank you anyways.

I'm actually all for this module. As a lowsec dweller I firmly believe this will add a world of fun and hopefully we'll get to see more BC's roaming around with this.

I had an interesting fight with a prophecy about 2 weeks ago. As a FW guy, it's normally frigs 23/7 (soon to be changing? ) and seeing that BC means something interesting to kill. Myself and another guy tackled it in long range kitey frigs. It would have been a super slow, long helpless death but the Proph pilot made EvE fun again. He deployed a Mobile MJD unit, aligned to sun, turned at the last second and activated the spool up timer.

The fun and excitement trying to manage where's going and getting ready to try and catch him when he activated was fun. As we don't encounter the mobile units very often in a fight, it was a bit of confusion and chaos trying to decide whether or not to shoot the deployable which again added a lit more of the old EvE style of choices and varied game-play. After the guy successfully micro-jumped and then warped off to his safe, I applauded him in local for the creative escape.


So yes, this module will make getting away easier, but it also changes the dynamics of the game so that it doesn't always have to be EvE Online - Kiters edition. Should be fun and make brawling BC's a little more relevant.

Not exactly surprised. The Orca is such an odd fit when compared to other Command Ships, which is why I began advocating for a new breed to use in supporting Expedition (Prospect) operations. The "limited" availability of the MMJD just reinforces my current plans to use a different Command Ship in the near term.

Try a Proteus or Recon, or just logi on a Keres. Works just fine.

There needs to be more thought on this. Just copying the Battleship one and slapping it on Battlecruisers isn't going to work.
Without implementing more counters to the mod, it will create problems and force a meta of scramblers on people. In lowsec I agree that is could be a rather large problem, with gate guns and all.

Allowing Scrams, Disruptors, Infini points to stop this mod is probably a pretty decent balance point. It allows the mod to be used for positioning and allows for a lot of a fleet to use it as an escape module. The counter to it is essentially fleet skill of spreading points properly.