Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So does fitting an extra prop mod in the form of an MJD.


And now brawlers have that same luxury.


At least you can choose not to commit. The brawler doesn't have that luxury. Hell, even with the MJD, the scram brawler still commits to a fight in scram range.


Because there are no solo brawling ships anywhere in eve.

Basically it comes down to this. Kiters can choose not to commit. Then some targets may get away. Risk v. Reward.
Brawlers can choose to gimp their tank/dps for the chance of maybe getting away from a kiter. Risk v Reward.

So what's supposed to catch and kill MJD Naga fleets?

actual man-hours were spent implementing this ****** idea. think about that.

Yeah but you just know if they weren't thinking of great ideas like making long points worthless they'd be adding 40 second reload timers to weapon systems that already work and are the only way of dealing with inties.

do you even brawl bro? eve is a social game, if you can't bring more guys than they have then you don't deserve to win, god


It's actually very reassuring to see that 95% of the responses in this topic are explaining in no uncertain terms why this is an awful idea. Although the implication of that is that Fozzie is now actually less aware of what the **** is going on than the average eve player which is a pretty scary concept for the future of this game.

This is amazingly bad. AMAZINGLY BAD.

Everyone will fit these to their BC's in lowsec DED complexes, wormholes, lowsec gate camps, you name it.

If you are in, say, a wormhole, you fit am mMJD and the moment you see something on scan, you just light it and voila, you are 100km away from where you were. LOLOL. Fail.

Camping a gate and the gate guns are a bit pesky? Why, just fit an mMJD and sit 60km off the gate. 12s later, and voila, you have shed gate gun aggro and can warp back to 60km. Hello pathetic gate camps, again. Fail.

Or sit at zero on a gate, with a buddy in a linked Vigilant. With enough luck, you can just bail from the gate because the Vigilant can keep the scrammers at >9km forever, and you can just escape whenever you like. No point trying to long point anything anymore. Fail.

Ratting in low or null? Why, just fit an MJD. When you're sick of being at zero in a belt or anomaly, just align somewhere (can take all of 4s!) MJD and laugh at the ceptors trying to catch you. LOLOL. Fail.

The only counter to this is obviously the Mordus ships, which are OP as it is (except the barghest, which is a bucket of pus on par with the Nestor) or linked faction scrams out to 25km, and if you really want to bring back link abuseas a definite, necessary thing to even get a kill EVER, then fine.

This is such a bad idea, I honestly don't think you realise how stupid it is. This game is already so full of cowards and borderline broken ships/combos and frustrations. Making it impossible to get a kill, ever, will just pile frustration upon frustration and result in ever more boring, risk-averse PVping.

Sure, you'll have Cyna nano or Ishtar alpha kite gangs who'll kill anyone foolish enough to sit on field, but with these modules, no one has to sit on field. So thanks for countering them with coward drives.

I wonder if Fozzie has the courage to go back on this idea at all, given 95% of the feedback is completely negative? Man up, Fozzie.

I hate admitting that Grath is right, but Grath is right.

I would be very surprised if he does go back on it, he's never listened to reason before. It's not an issue of courage, rather Fozzie seems to genuinely believe he's good at this game and knows what he's doing. That's what makes him so dangerous to this game.

I think the last balance change I agreed with grath on before this was the small nerf that domis took.

And we agree on this.

send out tackle, if they warp off then thats no different than now, however if you do get a successful tackle you can now be there for the kill quickly. Either way these modules give you more options when it comes to maneuverability in gangs/fleets. Especially if you are smaller group than your opponent.

It's no longer a gaurunteed "they have disruptors/bubbles, there is no way for me to try and engage this group" It is now "They most likely have disruptors/bubbles lets warp in see what we can do and bug out"

If the FC has more escape options he may be more willing to engage in riskier endeavors. It's no longer a point/bubble = dead kind of world anymore.

People are more likely to take risks if they have ways to offset them.