Science & Industry

There is always space on the goonspiracy bandwagon. Furthermore, we must not fix a broken feature if goons are in favour of fixing it as well.

What's "market value"? You mean the hyper inflated prices people pay for them which is way above their functional value? Why would they do that, injecting a heap of illegally gained isk into the game at a price determined by the owners? They'd be better off just removing them completely. It would only make like 10 people quit, so who cares?

Realistically though, they are likely just to become non-functional, so they are for collections only. That way people dumb enough to have held onto them can say "look at the items I've got" while the actual industry system plods on with realistic changes able to be made to the invention system without worrying about the effects on T2 BPOs.

The reason they would need to is because like extra materials, T2 BPOs tie their hands when working with invention mechanics. They've stated that they will no separate the BPOs from the BPCs, so all changes they make to invented BPCs will spill over to BPOs. Their removal (or making them non-functional) would fix this.
Oh and this is a little out of context. The quote here is that they'd be better off removing them that pouring trillions of confiscated isk back into the market to buy T2 BPOs at what players value them at (which is vastly above their functional value).

I don't, which is why I'm not fussed by CCPs announcements that they will be decreasing in value and inevitably removed. They need to do it to be able to properly iterate on invention, so in my opinion it's a good idea. People getting all teared up about their investments decreasing in value shouldn't hold them back from changes that need to be made.

That must be it. I'm so poverty stricken I can't just go onto the sell orders forum and buy up some T2 BPOs. I always find this argument to be the weakest. You realise T2 ownership is exclusive to a club called "everyone" right? They aren't particularly expensive (though they are far too pricey for their return) and they are often on sale. The reason I don't currently own T2 BPOs is because they are simply not worth the investment. And no, I don't think only 10 people own T2 BPOs, I just think that if they removed them about 10 owners would ragequit, while the other would just HTFU and move on.

Yup, again, I'm mega envious. If only I could a afford to buy them... But here I am scraping in the dirt to afford frigates, right? Get over yourself buddy. Not everyone sits around dreaming of T2 BPOs, those of us that have been here long enough to have seen them come and go know that they are just a collectors item. Some people like collectors items, I personally don't. I'll continue to invest in profitable ventures instead.

people who own t2 bpos are to be pitied for their low intellect not envied

even people who simply inherited theirs or won them in the lottery rather than bought at these prices: if you saw 10 year profit prices on those, didn't realize it was a bubble and cash out immediately, boy howdy you're not the sharpest tool in the shed

here you all go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTyMhSKY9E

skip to 22:20

"i think we've been fairly consistently, publically of the opinion that we need to do something with t2 bpos for some time, I hope that's being taken into account in market prices..."

"...that value is going to go down in the future..."

good luck with the "this is all just a goonie lie" thing

c&p'ing this thousand times doenst make it better (especially when using it as argument to sell for cheap on every T2 BPO sale thread)

oh and how does "value will go down" and "we won't take them away, and screw you" make u think that they will be removed? -value of something not existent can't go down IRRC

welcome to 5 days ago btw.

they won't just be deleted, they'll get some token reward: it just will assuredly not be "here is something worth ten years profit"

i assume that the timetable on those getting murdered in their sleep was moved up after the issues they caused with the current change

yea im sure that's exactly what he wanted to say :D

anyway, title plus the flood of low-ball offers in sell orders says it all

WTS Goon Conspiracy Generator II BPO

Starting bid 15b

lol, well that quote does not say what you seem to think it says, those are 2 totally separate statements.

On top of that, it makes perfect sense. Reducing their effectiveness, and thus their value in stages, then removing them once their value reaches a certain level is not only a perfectly sound method of removal, but it also fits to what they said about a "transitional plan".