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[Kronos] Mordu's Legion

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BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#21 - 2014-05-12 16:25:32 UTC
Seems a bit meh overall
Xander Phoena
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-05-12 16:26:13 UTC
These all look delicious, especially the Garmur.

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Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-05-12 16:26:22 UTC
Will they get new stations?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#24 - 2014-05-12 16:27:27 UTC
Open Graves wrote:
Are those missile bonus including rapid launchers?
Do they include rockets and HAMs as well?

This. It would appear that the missile bonuses apply to all missile types regardless?

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RonUSMC
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#25 - 2014-05-12 16:27:35 UTC
Just looking at the frigate.... It looks like its going to have the same range, but be twice as fast to target. Reload time will be unaffected. Damage bonus makes it seem like it will have 7 launchers. Like a super HAM.

Which seems very out of balance for a frigate/tackle. If you compare it to the Condor.. it seems almost twice as good? Plus it has disruptor bonus. So I imagine scram/faction webs and being able to tackle anyone out to 40km? Then dealing a healthy amount of damage.

This isn't going to be a kite ship.
marVLs
#26 - 2014-05-12 16:27:50 UTC  |  Edited by: marVLs
Cruiser got nice damage bonus but BS damage is disapointing ... You replay many times that pirat factions are about pure and biggest dps but here... meeh, another BS that won't be used because of scare that they could be OP (like 90% of this ship class), well they won't.

I was hoping we will get second to Vindi biggest DPS boat (torp fitted pimped around 2k dps)

Buff BARGHEST damage bonus to 10% or even more is better!
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2014-05-12 16:28:04 UTC
by 200% bonus, do you mean 3x or 2x?

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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-05-12 16:28:21 UTC
Is the garmur supposed to have 25% missile damage per level, or is it 25% total?

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Noriko Mai
#29 - 2014-05-12 16:29:09 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
200% bonus to speed + 50% penalty to flight time = 50% bonus to range.


Where X is speed, and Y is flight time:
XY is Range.

With bonuses and penalties:
3X * 0.5Y = 1.5XY

This! Why give bonus and penalty at the same time???

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Pliskkenn
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#30 - 2014-05-12 16:29:15 UTC
So what you're telling me is, they were designed around being Caldari/Minmatar and we'd finally get some nice missile kiters, but then the lore precluded this? :P
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2014-05-12 16:29:15 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
by 200% bonus, do you mean 3x or 2x?

3x

200% bonus is read as adding 200%
Womyn Power
Broski Bad End
#32 - 2014-05-12 16:29:15 UTC
Without a flat or skill based reduction to mwd bloom these seem like a major let down, they're so much slower than angels ships while getting a sort of underwhelming specific 'pirate' bonus. Make increase the disrupt range to atleast 12.5 or 15% to make them more than interceptor range atleast.

Mwd bloom reduct would definitely make me buy them though, plz add thx.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2014-05-12 16:29:38 UTC
@ CCP Rise

http://i.imgur.com/a5IoojA.jpg

The art here shows 8 turrents, we were all hoping finally for an 8 launcher BS, and with the low damage bonuses these have it would seem they were primed and ready for an 8 launcher boat, yet its only got 7.

Is this a typo?

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2014-05-12 16:30:30 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
by 200% bonus, do you mean 3x or 2x?

3x

200% bonus is read as adding 200%

I know what it means literally: I am unsure if CCP meant that (given the corresponding negative bonus) and mentally goofed thinking 200% meant 2x (so same range but quicker application).

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-05-12 16:31:15 UTC
Is the BS intended to be used solo? I'd rather have something much faster to hold point on something in case he try to fly out of range so the niche seems pretty small for the usage of the gallente bonus.
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#36 - 2014-05-12 16:31:38 UTC
just hoping the BS LP/Isk cost isn't going to be as bad as the nestor, hopefully CCP learnt no one is liable to use them in combat when they cost as much as a carrier can ESPECIALY as their aiming these towards pvp.
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-05-12 16:32:34 UTC
Makari Aeron wrote:
Still kinda miffed that Mordu's Legion ships aren't ECM based like the lore dictates.


I'm sure I've read it at some point, and am not disagreeing with you, but would you mind linking a specific piece of lore that highlights that?

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-05-12 16:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
They look alright at first glance.

Quote:
Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time


I though we were done with this kind of confusing bonus? Why not give them less velocity bonus and do away with the flight penalty? It only matters for the first wave or missiles anyway.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-05-12 16:33:31 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
200% bonus to speed + 50% penalty to flight time = 50% bonus to range.


Where X is speed, and Y is flight time:
XY is Range.

With bonuses and penalties:
3X * 0.5Y = 1.5XY

This! Why give bonus and penalty at the same time???


Because it let them give a much bigger bonus to velocity which can cut the wasted volley and the time to target issue missile ships have to deal with.
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#40 - 2014-05-12 16:33:37 UTC
Berluth Luthian wrote:
Will they get new stations?


Belive they will be adding LS mordus agents.
berluth also talk to mitachi etc.