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Star Citizen v EVE

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1261 - 2014-05-10 03:01:14 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

Well cool, and ra-ra Chris!, but none of that has anything to do whatsoever with the very real challenges that using disparate studios involves. Like I said, if he can pull it off and meet expectations, he could simply sell the process, it would be quite valuable if reproducible.

Sorry, if pointing that out derailed your cheer-leading for a bit, carry on.



It didn't derail anything at all....In fact it had nothing to do with my post and you just went off on that angle, but you know what, here's some examples of multi studio games that were successful and recent releases to boot:


Borderlands 2, which uses the unreal engine and was co developed by both 2K studios and gearbox software.

Call of duty ghosts, which was developed by 3 houses working together....Activision and Never soft and raven software, using the frostbite graphics engine from Dice.

Bottom line, the 21st century just called and was wondering where have you been hiding, if you think that multi house developed games are doomed to fail?


Settle down Beavis.

Please locate the word "fail" in my previous posts. I said it was difficult and/or challenging and could be profitable if successful. I think you may have overdosed on the kool-aid and are now resorting to any any opportunity to cheer-lead whether it's on point or not.

To argue with you further would require a level of stupidity I feel incapable of.



☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#1262 - 2014-05-10 03:12:42 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:

Settle down Beavis.

Please locate the word "fail" in my previous posts. I said it was difficult and/or challenging and could be profitable if successful. I think you may have overdosed on the kool-aid and are now resorting to any any opportunity to cheer-lead whether it's on point or not.

To argue with you further would require a level of stupidity I feel incapable of.




No it proves that you seriously went down the wrong road when I showed games that were quite successful doing exactly that and now you're going into full reverse mode and focusing on "fail"....P


It's been done before and it's nothing new or never tried before, so if it worked for them, why wouldn't it for CIG is beyond me since they're all experienced developers with years of work behind them, not some fresh out of school staff with no experience...
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#1263 - 2014-05-10 05:20:10 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Poor guys... ran out of pseudo-arguments every time... getting refuge on cheap insults when they start smelling the sh*t on their knees... shameful.
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1264 - 2014-05-10 08:10:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Aspalis
raven666wings wrote:
Poor guys... ran out of pseudo-arguments every time... getting refuge on cheap insults when they start smelling the sh*t on their knees... shameful.


Touching on pseudo-arguments, I rely on scientific evidence rather than blind faith.

Example: Like how I am sceptical of Chris Roberts' ability to deliver on the stretch goals and promises rather than putting in my faith into him, like you and digitalwanderer are.

But carry on.

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#1265 - 2014-05-10 09:03:15 UTC
Aspalis wrote:
Example: Like how I am sceptical of Chris Roberts' ability to deliver on the stretch goals and promises rather than putting in my faith into him, like you and digitalwanderer are.

But carry on.

If you "relied on scientific evidence" you'd go and watch their community videos and check out the progress and the ammount of work that's already done. The only faith I see here is the one you're praying for (that the game would crash and burn in order to not stomp EVE).
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1266 - 2014-05-10 09:25:15 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
Example: Like how I am sceptical of Chris Roberts' ability to deliver on the stretch goals and promises rather than putting in my faith into him, like you and digitalwanderer are.

But carry on.

If you "relied on scientific evidence" you'd go and watch their community videos and check out the progress and the ammount of work that's already done. The only faith I see here is the one you're praying for (that the game would crash and burn in order to not stomp EVE).


You have struggled with my 'I believe it when I see it' mindset for quite a while, so care to explain why you think I am "praying" for Star Citizen to flop?

Would it help if I told you that I am a cynical pessimist and have always been a cynical pessimist?

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
Xenuria
#1267 - 2014-05-10 12:27:18 UTC
Star Citizen is Vaporware, literally.

CSM 12 Candidate
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#1268 - 2014-05-10 12:53:32 UTC
So you star citizen guys think that its gonna stomp Eve and steal its players? Just curious.

From what I have seen they have different play styles. I like Eves playstyle very much and I have plans to stay here for a very long time.

I'll try out Star Citizen by all means if and when it comes out but Its not gonna make me stop playing EvE.

-k8

My Fanclub
Dorian Tormak
RBON United
#1269 - 2014-05-10 13:17:35 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
Example: Like how I am sceptical of Chris Roberts' ability to deliver on the stretch goals and promises rather than putting in my faith into him, like you and digitalwanderer are.

But carry on.

If you "relied on scientific evidence" you'd go and watch their community videos and check out the progress and the ammount of work that's already done. The only faith I see here is the one you're praying for (that the game would crash and burn in order to not stomp EVE).

Yeah those hour long videos of Chris Roberts talking a bunch of bullshit is sure what I would call scientific evidence.

Holy Satanic Christ! This is a Goddamn Signature!
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#1270 - 2014-05-10 13:52:59 UTC
To be honest I hope EVE survives the trip, although the tactical combat gameplay is not my favorite I still enjoy its setting and the huge ammount of quality sci-fi content and backstory. SC and ED show up as legitimate competition just at the right time to give EVE's management a wake up call and put them back on track instead of messing around with consoles and sh*t.
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1271 - 2014-05-10 13:56:28 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
To be honest I hope EVE survives the trip, although the tactical combat gameplay is not my favorite I still enjoy its setting and the huge ammount of quality sci-fi content and backstory. SC and ED show up as legitimate competition just at the right time to give EVE's management a wake up call and put them back on track instead of messing around with consoles and sh*t.


However, your messiah has touched on the subject and said that Star Citizen is not going to compete with EVE because they are two very different games.

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1272 - 2014-05-10 14:00:57 UTC
Star Citizen is competition for Valkyrie.

EVE doesn't have a direct competitor, except all the other things that are entertaining and take up your time.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1273 - 2014-05-10 14:05:32 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Star Citizen is competition for Valkyrie.

EVE doesn't have a direct competitor, except all the other things that are entertaining and take up your time.


No, the only thing Star Citizen competes with is Elite Dangerous.

EVE Valkyrie will play more like a MOBA.

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#1274 - 2014-05-10 15:02:11 UTC
Aspalis wrote:
However, your messiah has touched on the subject and said that Star Citizen is not going to compete with EVE because they are two very different games.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4549429#post4549429
(please refer to this post for my opinion on whether Star Citizen competes with EVE or not)
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#1275 - 2014-05-10 15:05:42 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Sibyyl wrote:
Star Citizen is competition for Valkyrie.

EVE doesn't have a direct competitor, except all the other things that are entertaining and take up your time.


Star Citizen will be a persistent universe MMORPG. Not a pay2win 4v4 arcade dogfighter like Valkyrie, which will probably flop and won't have players spending time or money on it.

Unlike yourselves CCP's management has acknowledged that both Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous are serious competition to EVE Online. Hence the WoD cancellation and the attempt to unify the 3 EVE games into a single one, since both SC and ED will be excellent at a space simulation and also avatar/shooter gameplay.

EVE can have a huge number of ppl at the same time pressing F1 and watching thousands of little squares on their screen. But the player balance might tilt towards SC and ED if ppl get tired of that tactical gameplay and gain the taste to engage in smaller scale capital ship battles with 1st person experience.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1276 - 2014-05-10 15:33:34 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
However, your messiah has touched on the subject and said that Star Citizen is not going to compete with EVE because they are two very different games.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4549429#post4549429
(please refer to this post for my opinion on whether Star Citizen competes with EVE or not)

I read your post. You're basically saying that zooming around on my R6 competes with EVE, because they're both entertaining and they both take up my time. How profound of you.

Being a "persistent MMORPG" also is suspiciously non-specific.

I'd like you to be specific, and actually give some examples like you promised below.
Quote:
I could give you many examples of games that compete with EVE Online

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1277 - 2014-05-10 15:46:07 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
However, your messiah has touched on the subject and said that Star Citizen is not going to compete with EVE because they are two very different games.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4549429#post4549429
(please refer to this post for my opinion on whether Star Citizen competes with EVE or not)


I honestly couldn't care less for your opinion whether they competes or not and on that subject, I am more inclined to believe Chris Roberts when he states that they do not compete because they are two different games.

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#1278 - 2014-05-10 15:52:37 UTC
https://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/corporateinformation/financial-information <<--------- don't forget to keep an eye on it in the coming years.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1279 - 2014-05-10 16:36:46 UTC
Way to go avoiding the tough questions.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#1280 - 2014-05-10 18:19:52 UTC
Actually, I just received the latest update and the timetable is still set for this month for the rollout of the DFM, which the main difficulty right now is the multiplayer aspect and getting hundreds of servers ready for upwards of 250 000 backers by late may.


Fresh from the presses, but please keep arguing......Blink