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Some EVE players can not separate themselves from the game.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#621 - 2014-05-07 02:19:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Nyphur wrote:
How hard is it to scratch anodized aluminium?


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While there probably IS something out there that could resist both the salt-water splashing of a high tide in bad weather AND the clothing of people closely inspecting the monument (or of idiots who think their internet spaceships vendetta is worth vandalising a public monument for), I doubt that substance is inexpensive.


The substance is called glass


Hard, yes. Corrosive-resistant, also yes.

The problem with glass is that it is also brittle and tends to produce surgically sharp edges when shattered. Also, slippery when wet.

I'm thinking the city of Reykjavik probably DON'T want a monument where if somebody falls over on it while wearing goth pants, that person goes to the hospital looking like they just picked a fight with Freddy Krueger.


You ever tried to actually go through a thick plate glass window - like found everywhere in commercial buildings? Good luck.



I have, in fact, been thrown through a plate glass window (door actually, but whatever). Hurt like hell. Just this side of what I'd imagine being thrown through a brick wall feels like.

I recommend not fooling around near glass buildings when on a Tequila bender.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Mr Epeen Cool
Xenuria
#622 - 2014-05-07 03:06:42 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:


I have, in fact, been thrown through a plate glass window (door actually, but whatever). Hurt like hell. Just this side of what I'd imagine being thrown through a brick wall feels like.

I recommend not fooling around near glass buildings when on a Tequila bender.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Mr Epeen Cool



I have been thrown through some interesting solids but never plate glass. As I said I have a rather problematic sensitivity to pain. I cannot imagine being thrown at something like that. I am somewhat confused as to how the monument was vandalized once more. I would think that surveillance would be a priority after the first time they messed with my name.

I await my catharsis and the justice soon to come.
Shurgin Ambraelle
Vagrants Against Gankers In Null Alliances
#623 - 2014-05-07 03:39:49 UTC
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
Synthetic Cultist wrote:
I read this post by Andski:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4554301#post4554301

And then this post by Triskian:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4557269#post4557269

And was wondering why there is such a difference.

What has changed in the playerbase in a year, that would have caused such a difference ?


That's exactly what i was thinking as well.

What the hell happened?

Though tbh, if someone causes trouble while visiting iceland for fanfest, just revoke their fanfest pass and make them pitch a tent near a volcano untill their plane leaves for home so the hotel and bars dont have to deal with him/her either.
I was there and don't even know what happened.. then again I didn't stay around til 6 in the morning.
Anyone else witnessed those things Triskian reported?..


Although I did not attend Fanfest I can bring to mind some of the human behavior associated with this. Naturally EVE is an older persons game. It is time based unlike the COD and BF players perfer instant gratification and await the next release. So iin theory it separates the kids from the adults. Well unfortunately these kids start to grow up and they will flock together. I am friends with people in my corp outside of EVE and we all are pretty much over the age of 27. We have one exception ableit a son of a corp member. The problem is that the player base is getting younger and it is not comprised of the computer "nerds" as people may beieve. I know military, ATCs, Firemen (myself included) and other professions that enjoy this alternative relality. However when it comes to collective behavior the masses sometimes line up together and stupidity prevails. A group of a few can make an entire community look like complete trash. Hence my signature below.

The Biggest FUCer of them all!! RL COMES 1ST!!

-The Gene Pool Could Use a Little Chlorine!! Proud Member of InPanic!!

Shurgin Ambraelle
Vagrants Against Gankers In Null Alliances
#624 - 2014-05-07 03:47:11 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Hey guys,

Just to keep you updated on this, we're moving forward with investigations and suchlike, and have had a visit at CCP Headquarters from a couple of players with further information this evening that's basically confirmed everything for us.

We'll have more details for you guys hopefully sometime tomorrow. Thanks for your patience.




I am going to through this out there.

CCP will do the right thing when it comes to due process and such. That being said they will not release the names, identities, or corp/alliances being given as that would result in zero professionalism and betray the trust of its players base. If you did something stupid and then realized your errors would you want to be thrown to the wolves. I am not saying with this toon did was right but everyone has their day in court or any type of council. If they are admitting to it, and are will to pay for it and take their punishments then all will be done.

Remember names travel fast in this verse and if this pilot will probably kicked from their corp in a very ugly/public way. Just because I am not a fan of the Goons doesn't mean I want them all out of EVE. They bring some commical to the game and do produced some of the best D*** battles I have been a part of.

The Biggest FUCer of them all!! RL COMES 1ST!!

-The Gene Pool Could Use a Little Chlorine!! Proud Member of InPanic!!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#625 - 2014-05-07 03:54:23 UTC
Triskian wrote:
Considering how extremely upset some people in this thread are, I think it bears mentioning that if the person or persons involved are caught, that it is in fact not okay to obliterate their names from the monument in some kind of revenge. Nor is it okay to enact your own justice upon them in other ways. CCP is handling it, you don't need to do anything other than be outraged or come forward with information. I've gotten that vibe from some of the posts in this thread that some random person might take it upon themselves to do something equally stupid to what's already happened. Many of the posts in this thread could very well be scaring the vandal off from stepping forward due to fear of retribution that does not fit the crime.

I noticed that this year's fanfest was far more violent than last year's. Brawls at Nora's, cop cars and paddy wagons filled up with drunk assholes, and people getting the crap kicked out of them over pubcrawl flags. Punching someone out over a strip of cloth, breaking their nose, and kicking them when they're on the ground is (this happened, I don't know who it happened to, but it wasn't a pretty sight), in my opinion, far worse than what happened to the monument. The vandalism might be explained partially by the general attitude of some folks who play the game and can't distinguish reality from internet space and consumption of alcohol, but there is never any excuse for violently attacking someone unless it's self-defence. The night of the Party At the Top of the World I saw the cops tossing people into the paddy wagon almost wholesale, something that did not happen last year. From what I saw, despite there being far fewer people, there were a lot more people getting arrested for being ******* drunks than last year.

A lot of vandalism (putting your name on the walls in the washrooms of a bar is vandalism too, folks), fighting, and general assholery happened this year. The monument vandal should be ashamed, but we should also be ashamed. Maybe we should appologize as a community to the city of Reykjavic for our behaviour and consider ourselves lucky that they're letting us come back next year. We can do better, we have done better, and we should do better.




Holy cow.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#626 - 2014-05-07 04:29:45 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
...
Lay off the 'worse things happen in Syria' argument, please. It lacks any logical relation to this.

m


Here's the logical relationship for you: you are equated with what concerns you.

Thank you for this completely superfluous lesson in relativity, but problems are still problems even if there are worse things going on elsewhere.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Miichael Epic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#627 - 2014-05-07 04:53:17 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
We're well aware of this, and are dealing with the situation as we speak.

Frankly, on a personal note, I find this absolutely disgusting and completely detrimental to the EVE Community's close knit spirit.

We'll have more information tomorrow afternoon/evening regarding this.

Really sorry that this has happened guys Sad



Are you serious? Legit....please lend me a moment of your time. You and all of your cohorts at CCP games have created a hostile gaming environment. You yourselves have even told people to "HTFU" which is rude as rude gets and makes you guilty of the exact things you're illuminating as absolutely disgusting.

Have you played EVE lately? Miner gankers. Lets talk about them. Lets shoot a miner, that can't fight back and has either no weapons, or just 5 little drones and that's cool. You have Concord, ok...I get the Concord thing. But you are building a world and letting people come home from their miserable existences where they earn minimum wage or get dissed on by the head cheerleader and football jock and take out all of their aggression and Misanthrophy on mobile tractor units and peaceful players just hanging out having a good 'ol time.

I understand that the EVE market relies on things like that to function and if no miner every got destroyed then Hulks would be 10 for 0.99 cents/isk. I get it. However....your "Concord" consequence is not a consequence at all. You can just warp and cloak after like, what? 45 seconds? poof...problem solved.

You act surprised like you haven't created this miserable f!cking existence in this game. People are mean here because you give them the tools to be mean. Its spilled out into Twitter, Erotica1 was banned for being a f!cking psychopath and what else is going on? I talked to a guy tonight who tried to gank me in Daran and told him attacking a miner that can't fight back is like a grown man beating his wife because he knows she won't do anything about it.

That's the lessons you're instilling in the players by allowing this nonsense. You need to not worry about 10 expansions, Valkyrie, Legion/Dust and focus on building an environment that is friendlier. You're basically sucking in the Call of Duty crowd and telling them its ok to continue to be bullies and buttholes and mean and torture people through social media and in real life.

There are real people behind every toon/avatar you see. Some of us aren't devoid of morals and ethics. You say you care, but do you really? It doesn't seem like it. You are doing a job, little CCP (insert name here) has a real name and was a little boy playing Cowboys and Indians (or Cowboys and Aliens lol) once upon a time and you grew up to a game developer and got a job so you can stock your fridge full of snacks and buy diapers for the baby. This is a job to you. You get paid to do it....if things start sucking, you can just go work somewhere else. We all do that. If my job started sucking, I'd move on.

So what shows that you give a crap about anything? You work for, or ARE the devil in disguise that perpetuates all of this hysteria with your videos telling gamers to HTFU and the player base with their various terms "carebear" and the idiots who message you in game and tell you that you're ignorant but don't realize by the very essence of them messaging you to TELL YOU that you are ignorant makes them twice as ignorant as they perceive you to be.

The stupidity of this community is bewildering. Now I'm sure you sit there armed full of carebeat htfu why are you playing responses because you and the community literally do not possess the required thought processing brain power to formulate or articulate an eloquent response, and that's fine. Knock yourself out with your depraved sense of morality and ethical standing.

But don't sit on your own forum, CCP somebody and tell me that you are disgusted. You did this. Do you see this type of sh!t going on in A Kingdom of Keflings? Nope.

Think about why. Dwell on that. I'm not saying make the game baby friendly....but its like a 3rd world country in New Eden where people lack the ability to be civil or think rationally.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#628 - 2014-05-07 04:57:22 UTC
Oh for ****'s sake. This moronic conjecture of yours has been addressed and debunked many times in this thread.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#629 - 2014-05-07 04:58:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Miichael Epic wrote:
tl;dr. It's all CCP's fault.


Shocked I hope you are wearing something containing a fire retardant.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#630 - 2014-05-07 04:59:14 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:
The stupidity of this community is bewildering.

I guess you must be right about that. It did produce your post after all.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Miichael Epic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#631 - 2014-05-07 05:03:58 UTC
Case and point. **** talkers. No intelligent responses.

Idiots need to be cast off on an island or shot in the head. Worthless hatemongers with their lack of intelligence. Makes me sick. Sick to my stomach.

Worthless, arrogant, narcissistic nothings with nothing to live for...cling to your opinions instead of fact, work off of the "thrill" of talking crap to me. Say things have been debunked, can't pinpoint one in a response. Can work the emoticon faces though. My time too precious to deal with this....*waves* C'est la vie, dipshits.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#632 - 2014-05-07 05:05:17 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:
Idiots need to be cast off on an island or shot in the head.

Saving so you can't edit this out.

I don't even have to argue against you, this part speaks for itself.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#633 - 2014-05-07 05:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Belt Scout
Miichael Epic wrote:
Case and point. **** talkers. No intelligent responses.

Idiots need to be cast off on an island or shot in the head. Worthless hatemongers with their lack of intelligence. Makes me sick. Sick to my stomach.

Worthless, arrogant, narcissistic nothings with nothing to live for...cling to your opinions instead of fact, work off of the "thrill" of talking crap to me. Say things have been debunked, can't pinpoint one in a response. Can work the emoticon faces though. My time too precious to deal with this....*waves* C'est la vie, dipshits.


Shot in the head for smack talking on an internet forum? Yeah ok kiddo. You better move along back to xbox live.

EDIT: Before you leave, can i have your stuffs??

.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.

La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#634 - 2014-05-07 05:14:11 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Miichael Epic wrote:
Case and point. **** talkers. No intelligent responses.

Idiots need to be cast off on an island or shot in the head. Worthless hatemongers with their lack of intelligence. Makes me sick. Sick to my stomach.

Worthless, arrogant, narcissistic nothings with nothing to live for...cling to your opinions instead of fact, work off of the "thrill" of talking crap to me. Say things have been debunked, can't pinpoint one in a response. Can work the emoticon faces though. My time too precious to deal with this....*waves* C'est la vie, dipshits.


You just near-perfectly described yourself and added another data point in the litany of why highsec needs to be nerfed.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#635 - 2014-05-07 05:15:35 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:
C'est la vie, dipshits.


On t'a bercé trop près du mur?

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Miichael Epic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#636 - 2014-05-07 05:20:13 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Miichael Epic wrote:
C'est la vie, dipshits.


On t'a bercé trop près du mur?



Un peu....je ne peux pas supporter I'absence de moralite que n'importe qui a ici. Regardez ces gens repondant a me...not un artucule intelligent reponse...Doc
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#637 - 2014-05-07 05:22:12 UTC
"I think morality is a problem in this game. We should shoot anyone who disagrees with me."

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#638 - 2014-05-07 05:23:06 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:


Are you serious? Legit....please lend me a moment of your time. You and all of your cohorts at CCP games have created a hostile gaming environment. You yourselves have even told people to "HTFU" which is rude as rude gets and makes you guilty of the exact things you're illuminating as absolutely disgusting.


They've created a hostile gaming environment, yes. They have not asked players to extend their passions into the metagame. That's like blaming two athletes of a sports league for fighting off the field because the sport they participate in encourages fierce competition.

Great logic there, Spock.

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#639 - 2014-05-07 05:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Schmata Bastanold
La Nariz wrote:
...and added another data point in the litany of why highsec needs to be nerfed.


Oh c'mon, like null had never produced similarly stu0pid... You don't have to drag everything into "nerf hisec" campaign.

Although he is a poster child for something special, I cannot deny that.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#640 - 2014-05-07 05:25:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Miichael Epic wrote:
However....your "Concord" consequence is not a consequence at all. You can just warp and cloak after like, what? 45 seconds? poof...problem solved.

No, this isn't correct.

The mechanics don't work this way at all. A ganker has 100% assurance of losing their ship. They are not allowed to avoid Concord and there are mechanisms in place to prevent them from avoiding Concord.

In relation to the rest of your post, this thread isn't about the broader morals in the community. It's about the action of a single (as far as we know) person.

This thread doesn't have to be turned into a soapbox against playstyles that you personally find distasteful, because within the thread almost all people, no matter what playstyle they prefer, has expressed a similar view about the act that occurred.