EVE General Discussion

Now imagine for a second 1000 people in Jita wondering around

Now be fair, the room was Minmatar, so it was meant to look 'crappy'.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Scroll down to the bottom and see where new subs dropped to almost nothing. There's a corresponding drop in TCU around the same time.

They stopped working on WiS because EVE was very literally dying at the time because of it.

For Dust, they hired a new team at a new studio in a different country losing very few devs to the project, and the game mechanics had/have a lot more potential to be useful and interesting.

As far as starting back up on more space-barbie? I don't know why they'd want to do that. No one has yet pointed out a game mechanic for it that wouldn't be better without the barbie part. Especially considering they'd have to start all the way over because the current version of it is a dead end. EVE itself has some fundamental flaws, and we finally have a roadmap on when the devs are going to work on them. If they fail to fix those flaws, no amount of space-barbie will save EVE.

edit:
Now, if in the future, dust ends up incorporated into EVE to effectively be a new form of space-barbie, that might actually be kinda cool. There was some fanfest talk about a unified login thing between EVE properties, but I kinda zoned out for it because it was part of the session that's only purpose is marketing.

Dear Rhes, I invite you and the rest of the people here to read this statement from CCP. It says all and answers very clearly to you:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672

These are CCP words:

Captain’s Quarters
Without establishments and meaningful activities to engage in, forcing players into a mandatory single-player Captain’s Quarters experience was a mistake. I mentioned earlier the perils of not getting the simple things right. Removing ship spinning was a negligent oversight and a clear sign that we had fallen out of touch with our community. The interiors for Incarna were so scoped down by our launch window that CQ was essentially a prototype feature that we foolishly promoted as a full-blown expansion. We underestimated our development time, set impractical or misleading expectations, and added insult to injury by removing something in which players were emotionally invested.

Virtual Goods
Next we arrive at our rather underwhelming virtual goods rollout. There was hardly anything to purchase initially, let alone to put the cost of the infamous monocle in perspective. The last thing we wanted to do was create the perception that all items in the store would be in that price range. Quite frankly, it was rather pointless to begin with because we did not have a multiuser environment in which players could show off their purchases. It was another feature that we rushed out the door before it was ready.
We also didn’t do enough to assure you that this wasn’t the beginning of a “pay to win” scenario in EVE.

Incarna
For the same reasons, Incarna—the real one with actual meaningful gameplay in it— will be a big step towards the future. For an experience that relies so much on emergence and human interaction, it’s remarkable that it’s taken us this long to actually put a face on it. Once Incarna hits its stride, EVE will be more personal, and thus more accessible to general audiences. Visual self-expression in a virtual setting is a core psychological component of gaming; most people need to see their avatars, or something vaguely humanoid, or else they don’t connect with the game. We were behind the curve and it needs to be addressed for the sake of EVE’s longevity. We have the technology. Now we need time to add the content that will bring more meaning to the gameplay—again, without disrupting the space combat simulator that many of you are, or at least were, very much in love with—and without delaying crucial improvements that this core experience desperately needs.

Wake up!

Huh?

Last time I checked I still have a pulse, be-it a pixellated one, but a pulse all the same.

And in any case by now I do not give a **** if WiS is made or not. I was so disappointed by the last announcements that I no longer bother.

(Do not bother posting the stupid "give me your stuff", cause I am not leaving...)

The 3 grand or more I've kicked up (read bought plex ingame) over the years should cover my contribution.

WiS got mixed up with golden ammo so CCP threw the baby out with the bathwater, agree it was done badly but ppl didn't unsub because of the concept of WiS.

We'll all see the wisdom of dropping it soon enough.

Keep on repeating the same old lie Rhes, perhaps if you do it often enough people might believe it's true.

That was posted in 2011. The quote in my sig is from a few months ago.