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Some EVE players can not separate themselves from the game.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#401 - 2014-05-05 18:54:42 UTC
Galen Darksmith wrote:
DrSmegma wrote:
has anyone really been far as to look to decide if this was photoshopped or real?


Not unless someone's gone and Photoshopped all the corneas of the CCP employees who have seen the damage firsthand.

Which is both impressive and terrifying if you think on it too hard.


Oculus Rift, man. We'll have quafe adverts burned into our retinas for sure!

I also wouldn't speculate too hard on who dun it. CCP has ruled out the obvious.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#402 - 2014-05-05 18:57:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Belt Scout
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:


Oculus Rift, man. We'll have quafe adverts burned into our retinas for sure!

I also wouldn't speculate too hard on who dun it. CCP has ruled out the obvious.


Actually as drunk as they all looked, it might not have been that hard for someone to run around scribbling on passed out eyeballs with a sharpie marker. TwistedTwisted

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They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#403 - 2014-05-05 19:06:16 UTC
Yeah so everyone saying that this stuff happens because CCP allows scamming or suicide ganking or whatever is just completely and utterly wrong.

This is from a post CCP Guard made after Fanfest 2013:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2954896

CCP Guard wrote:
One of the lovely young ladies who worked the Fanfest venue felt the need to write a long complimentary note on Facebook about the guests at Fanfest. Here are some translated bits from the note:

"The compliment of the week goes to the players of EVE Online, especially those who attended the Fanfest at Harpa.

I was working in Harpa this weekend like so many other weekends and was so tremendously pleased with the guests that I feel compelled to spread the happiness. There were around 2000 guests there who all have something to do with the computer game, EVE Online. My job this weekend was to work the bar and generally service this group of so called "computer nerds". I've done all kinds of events at Harpa, from small events with 30 people, conventions, large concerts up to 1000 man annual company fests. I've gotten very used to service Icelanders at these events and I believe I know exactly which groups are the easiest to work with, which are the rudest, the pushiest, the most fun, the funniest etc.

"It was great to work on, and be a part of, this impressive fest that CCP hosts. I have never (except at Fanfest 2012) had such a wonderful group of customers before. They stood in queues and nobody tried to push past anyone else to get service first. They said "thanks" and asked courteously for everything they needed. The traffic for food came in bursts so when things slowed down I left the service station to clean up and make the area nice again for the next burst. To my surprise there was nothing to clean up, the guests cleaned up after themselves, threw the wrappers in the garbage when they were done etc. The only thing for me to do was wipe a few crumbs off the tables.

"On the Saturday night we had the final party and probably had between 2-3000 people in the building. Even if people were drinking, things went pretty much the same regarding the neatness and courtesy. I sold a crazy amount of beer that night so I expected to have to do a lot of cleaning up, many times over the course of the evening, but that wasn't the case. The guests even returned empty cans when they bought new ones."

---

I also spoke with some of the bouncers at one of the bars filled to the brims with Fanfest guests the whole week. They came to me specifically to tell me that they were so happy with the clientele. They're not used to having the bar full of drunk people without things breaking, fights breaking out and some amount of troublemaking at least. They already looked forward to having you guys back next year.

I'm proud of my tribe and wanted to thank you guys for giving Fanfest a great reputation! :)


What's that? EVE players, many of whom are complete bastards to each other in game and on forums can actually get along well in real life, even amongst their worst enemies? It's almost as if they're just people who enjoy playing this game enough to go on a weekend long alcohol binge with other people who have that in common.

In other words, incidents where somebody leaves Harpa and realizes they're missing their tablet, or where somebody decides to vandalize the monument to CCP's checking account, are exceptions and not the norm

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#404 - 2014-05-05 19:33:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

The Rules:
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ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#405 - 2014-05-05 19:42:36 UTC
PLEX for PLEXIGLASS campaign.



Clear t-shirts will be required, and strategically placed logos for the ladies.... or not.. your choice really... Im good either way.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Dominous Nolen
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#406 - 2014-05-05 19:45:47 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:

Stealing the idea from my local graveyard maint. guys, in fact. They've started sealing text on grave markers with plexi, coz dimbulbs have been defacing headstone test for lulz.


+1 to this idea.

Glad to see you guys getting the local authorities involved in this matter. Absolutely disgusting behaviour

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood
Artyom Estemaire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#407 - 2014-05-05 19:46:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Artyom Estemaire
Sooo...this is all about the whole scracth thing right?

What happened to the Goon-sticker that somebody put on the monument? Was it removed?

Ninjaedit: Also great response CCP, please make sure this idiot gets caught.
Amarr Citizen 1312151005
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#408 - 2014-05-05 19:56:14 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
So, there's a couple of things going to happen in this thread right now:

  • First - People are going to stop pointing fingers and blaming people. CCP will investigate and take any action against game accounts, along with any legal action that we feel necessary. This is already in progress.
  • Second - This is damage of public property in the City of Reykjavik. The police have been informed, and investigation is ongoing. This is not a laughing matter, and will be dealt with as a criminal offence. We are currently reviewing security footage from a number of surrounding buildings.
  • Third - People will stop attacking the victim of this on our forums. It's not funny, it's not clever. Take your rumor mongering and personal attacks away from our community. If you choose not to, you'll be removed from the community, permanently. It's a simple as that. We will not tolerate victimization.

What's happened is absolutely disgusting. It's an insult to the entire community and is clearly the work a person who believes that behavior in a virtual world is a valid reason to make a real life personal attack on someone, and deface public property.

We will not tolerate this.

Thankfully we've already had a number of players come forward to assist us and provide information. Including, we believe, members of the person's own alliance.

Thankfully the vast majority of the rest of the community are in the same frame of mind as CCP - disgusted at the fact that someone would do this, and we're extremely grateful for your assistance.

With that in mind, I'll make a simple one time offer, that if the person who defaced the monument wants to come forward and contact me relating to this, then they can do so by EVE mailing my Dev character. If this happens, we'll take it as a gesture of good faith after an extremely stupid act that was committed.

With this in mind, be sure to keep this thread on topic, and cut out the personal attacks and finger pointing. People who break the rules will lose their forum posting privileges. Permanently.

Thanks.



Thanks for the update. Hopefully everything gets sorted and EVE can continue to grow and develop a strong community.
My main has no ties with either of the parties involved and CCP I am sure already can see I have been posting from the states So no I am not trying to frame anyone. They know who my main is already.

But this whole thing that happened is one of the reasons I choose not to post on my main character.
i did not wish to have my character name vandalized.
However i am glad I made this post and to see how many people are supporting what ever actions CCP chooses to take.

CCP is making the right moves and it is good to see them taking such a strong stance on this matter and on victimizing.
Amarr Citizen 1312151005
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#409 - 2014-05-05 19:59:03 UTC
Artyom Estemaire wrote:
Sooo...this is all about the whole scracth thing right?

What happened to the Goon-sticker that somebody put on the monument? Was it removed?

Ninjaedit: Also great response CCP, please make sure this idiot gets caught.


The goon sticker was removed the same day without any harm done from what i have read.
There is a thin line between a prank and vandalism both may be wrong only one cause real damage.

(Besides all the hurt feelings the Bee sticker caused)
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#410 - 2014-05-05 20:04:10 UTC
All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this?
Josef Djugashvilis
#411 - 2014-05-05 20:06:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Andski wrote:

Yeah so everyone saying that this stuff happens because CCP allows scamming or suicide ganking or whatever is just completely and utterly wrong.

There is an Eve character by the name of 'everyone'

Do you mean he said it was all to do with scamming and suicide ganking?

Or did you mean everyone in a more general sense, apart from all those who said no such thing?

This is not a signature.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#412 - 2014-05-05 20:06:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this?

Well, there are these complete nutcases who can't stop screaming about sociopathy one minute, only to turn around and issue death threats the next, but aside from that maladjusted minority, most are just your average bunch of joyful nerds who (in secret) rather enjoy being part of the EVE community.

Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Please explain your weird comment.

It seemed pretty straight-forward. If you look through the thread, you will quickly pick up on the undercurrent of “of course someone would do this since EVE attracts nasty ebil players” or opinions to that effect. Andski is pointing out that the reality of the situation is quite different.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#413 - 2014-05-05 20:11:22 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this?


No fellow of mine did it.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#414 - 2014-05-05 20:18:32 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this?

Absolutely.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#415 - 2014-05-05 20:21:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Andski wrote:

Yeah so everyone saying that this stuff happens because CCP allows scamming or suicide ganking or whatever is just completely and utterly wrong.

There is an Eve character by the name of 'everyone'

Do you mean he said it was all to do with scamming and suicide ganking?

Or did you mean everyone in a more general sense, apart from all those who said no such thing?

Please explain your weird comment.


Let's break it down for you

Some people in this thread have been saying that these incidents are the result of CCP's permissive attitude towards "sociopathic behavior" in their game.

I assume that "sociopathic behavior" refers to suicide ganking and scamming.

Those people are wrong because the waitstaff, bartenders, bouncers, maitres d' and others who have hosted EVE fans in their bars, restaurants and hotels tend to only ever have good things to say about the Fanfest attendees who patronize their businesses. They're wrong because these incidents aren't the norm at Fanfest.

That isn't to say that these people would complain to CCP about Fanfest attendees doing bad things in their restaurants, but the people of Reykjavik are quite closely-knit and word of EVE fans tearing **** up in bars and restaurants or checking out of hotels with their rooms torn to shreds and their credit cards cancelled would get around quickly.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#416 - 2014-05-05 20:21:45 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this?


Yes.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Gabriel Z
Krabulous
#417 - 2014-05-05 20:22:03 UTC
He should have followed the sage advice of Ice Cube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAbOgdbTbM

Checkkity check yoself, before you wreck yoself
RoCkEt X
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#418 - 2014-05-05 20:28:38 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
So, given Xenuria's thirst for drama and attention; what are the chances he did it himself?


He'd have to have pretty long arms considering he's from the US, and isn't in Iceland.




Falcon, i don't forum much, but this post is full of win. :D
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#419 - 2014-05-05 20:30:17 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
tell me with a straight face

Static portraits make excellent poker faces.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#420 - 2014-05-05 20:35:51 UTC
One of the great things about Eve is that, by and large, the community is civil and friendly once we take a step away from the game. Being a ruthless jerk is part of the game but once we're just talking person to person we're all buddies. Taking this sort of attitude out of the game and bringing it into RL (to vandalize what I view as a very meaningful representation of the greatness of the community) is just low. I don't know whether to be mad or sad about whoever is responsible. CCP is responding in exactly the way they should.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13