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Some EVE players can not separate themselves from the game.

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Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#201 - 2014-05-04 23:05:16 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
In before "Xenuria himself did this".


Or, herself as the case may be...


Itself.

It looks like the real victim here is Gevlon.


Again, I dislike Gevlon more than I should dislike a nerd playing a video game. But this is taking things too far, and using someone as a scapegoat is pathetic.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#202 - 2014-05-04 23:09:24 UTC
When someone makes me mad with their words, I frequently go and damage an unrelated 3rd party's property to get back at them. Because I am what is known as a child.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#203 - 2014-05-04 23:22:04 UTC
I will be sad to see Gevlon get banned (if he did this).

Who will take his place as the laughing stock of EVE?

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2014-05-04 23:27:27 UTC
It should be a bannable offense. Also, can't the relevant authorities use his Twitter to track him down and charge for vandalism? That said, I'm not sure how much damage this actually amounts to.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#205 - 2014-05-04 23:35:26 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
I will be sad to see Gevlon get banned (if he did this).

Who will take his place as the laughing stock of EVE?


Gevoln did not do it. He's hardly even a fan of Eve, I certainly can't imagine him going to fanfest. The twitter account was made just to publish the picture and smear Gevlon with it. All quite childish.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#206 - 2014-05-04 23:37:23 UTC
I literally can't separate myself from the game. I even have the pod ports installed.

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#207 - 2014-05-04 23:38:14 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Whoever did it likely searched for Xenuria's name with the name finder tool. Is it possible to find out IPs who sent requests for that name earlier today around the tweet time?



Surprisingly, you'll find that courts have ruled that IP addressees are not evidence, at least in the US. They're too easily faked.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#208 - 2014-05-04 23:44:13 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Whoever did it likely searched for Xenuria's name with the name finder tool. Is it possible to find out IPs who sent requests for that name earlier today around the tweet time?



Surprisingly, you'll find that courts have ruled that IP addressees are not evidence, at least in the US. They're too easily faked.


They're not admissible evidence in court largely because most court rulings with regards to electronic information as evidence were made precedent well before they were properly understood, by people whose parents were old enough to remember the Civil War.

They are, however, usable to obtain a warrant for a computer and phone search.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#209 - 2014-05-04 23:46:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Whoever did it likely searched for Xenuria's name with the name finder tool. Is it possible to find out IPs who sent requests for that name earlier today around the tweet time?



Surprisingly, you'll find that courts have ruled that IP addressees are not evidence, at least in the US. They're too easily faked.


They're not admissible evidence in court largely because most court rulings with regards to electronic information as evidence were made precedent well before they were properly understood, by people whose parents were old enough to remember the Civil War.

They are, however, usable to obtain a warrant for a computer and phone search.
Not to mention that they are easily enough for CCP to wildly swing the banhammer.

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Leezir
Doomheim
#210 - 2014-05-04 23:49:18 UTC
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Marsha Mallow
#211 - 2014-05-04 23:52:18 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Not to mention that they are easily enough for CCP to wildly swing the banhammer.

Funny how this one has players baying for blood and the banhammer eh? The last major public banning was done at CCPs discretion, and tbh a lot of us shrugged. Same with this, but now its an insult to the wider playerbase. Hypocrisy + irony overload.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#212 - 2014-05-04 23:54:27 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Not to mention that they are easily enough for CCP to wildly swing the banhammer.

Funny how this one has players baying for blood and the banhammer eh? The last major public banning was done at CCPs discretion, and tbh a lot of us shrugged. Same with this, but now its an insult to the wider playerbase. Hypocrisy + irony overload.


Turns out that once you have established that witch hunting is ok and gets results, it happens more often.

Besides, this one actually is a crime.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
#213 - 2014-05-05 00:01:01 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
We're well aware of this, and are dealing with the situation as we speak.

Frankly, on a personal note, I find this absolutely disgusting and completely detrimental to the EVE Community's close knit spirit.

We'll have more information tomorrow afternoon/evening regarding this.

Really sorry that this has happened guys Sad



While I agree with dealing with it - "close knit spirit" is a very positive way of terming a community that holds true to the saying "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." We're close knit in that you have to be close to people to steal from them Blink

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Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#214 - 2014-05-05 00:02:14 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
EVE is real. Deal with it, CCP and "disappointed" players. What you do ingame can and will have RL consequences. Blink

I wonder if Mitani's name is still intact... I would have expected his name to be erased of the EVE history first. Roll

And yes, this was a waste of my subscription money.


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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#215 - 2014-05-05 00:02:17 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
I will be sad to see Gevlon get banned (if he did this).

Who will take his place as the laughing stock of EVE?


Gevoln did not do it. He's hardly even a fan of Eve, I certainly can't imagine him going to fanfest. The twitter account was made just to publish the picture and smear Gevlon with it. All quite childish.



Yeah that wouldn't surprise me either.

Where is the Ripard Teg blogpost calling this terrorism and an act of genocide?

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#216 - 2014-05-05 00:02:58 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Not to mention that they are easily enough for CCP to wildly swing the banhammer.
Funny how this one has players baying for blood and the banhammer eh? The last major public banning was done at CCPs discretion, and tbh a lot of us shrugged. Same with this, but now its an insult to the wider playerbase. Hypocrisy + irony overload.
What can I say, I find that someone vandalising an actual work of art related for and paid for by the developers of this game is more a reason to ban someone that someone asking someone to sing some songs (and since it's an actual real world crime, doe in fact violate the EULA/TOS). If you want to call that hypocrisy, that's your prerogative.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#217 - 2014-05-05 00:03:10 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
I will be sad to see Gevlon get banned (if he did this).

Who will take his place as the laughing stock of EVE?


Gevoln did not do it. He's hardly even a fan of Eve, I certainly can't imagine him going to fanfest. The twitter account was made just to publish the picture and smear Gevlon with it. All quite childish.



Yeah that wouldn't surprise me either.

Where is the Ripard Teg blogpost calling this terrorism and an act of genocide?


That was reserved for the bee sticker.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#218 - 2014-05-05 00:04:30 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Not to mention that they are easily enough for CCP to wildly swing the banhammer.

Funny how this one has players baying for blood and the banhammer eh? The last major public banning was done at CCPs discretion, and tbh a lot of us shrugged. Same with this, but now its an insult to the wider playerbase. Hypocrisy + irony overload.

Yeah, wanting someone to be held accountable for an actual crime is definitely hypocrisy.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Reiisha
#219 - 2014-05-05 00:09:23 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Andski wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Or, they could just have the authorities extract the hidden EXIF metadata from the image. If it was taken with a modern phone or a digital camera there should be some very usable stuff in there.

The image doesn't have any EXIF data


Sad

So the perp was not entirely clueless or maybe just lucky.



I'm fairly sure that's because Imgur automatically resizes and stuff... It doesn't just make a copy but saves its own version of the image.

Also, what's with people claiming this is just spaceship shenanigans? If i come over and blow up your kitchen because of a difference we have in EVE, does that mean i go free 'because it's just because of a game'?

Actually damaging something in RL, whether it's just a scratch or dropping a nuke on it, is a crime in any country.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#220 - 2014-05-05 00:12:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Yeah, wanting someone to be held accountable for an actual crime is definitely hypocrisy.


Defacing property is so much more serious than attempting to end someone's life in the world of goons? You do know that Mittens would have been looking at jail time if CCP or what's his name had pressed charges, right?


Reiisha wrote:

Also, what's with people claiming this is just spaceship shenanigans? If i come over and blow up your kitchen because of a difference we have in EVE, does that mean i go free 'because it's just because of a game'?

Actually damaging something in RL, whether it's just a scratch or dropping a nuke on it, is a crime in any country.


Because CCP threw wide the gates to this sort of thing not coming down like a tone of bricks on mittens. After all, if doing power points to manipulate someone into taking their own life isn't a serious crime, vandalism is hardly worth talking about.