Out of Pod Experience

There is a problem with that picture you are painting. It is all (wishful) speculation at this point and true, grim news did come from CCP recently but do you know exactly what is going on at CIG? I don't and nor will I ever claim I know what is going on at either CCP or at CIG but when my reaction to a incredibly wonky demo of the dogfightning at PAX East is far from a positive one, I have to wonder if the bar set by Chris Roberts is simply out of reach.

Now if we look at EVE Valkyrie, it is a game with a much smaller scope, it is more simplistic, was initially made by a bunch of CCP employees in their spare time and basically became the poster child for Oculus Rift. Quite an achievement.

Personally though, I am more jazzed for Elite Dangerous, at least that has a playable alpha... with dogfighting against other players in it.

Though, are you really surprised? If you spend real money on something or someone that you have a lot of faith in, it is kind of given that you want to believe you have made the right choice and matter of fact is that you will go to great lengths convincing yourself (and others) that you made the right choice.

Kinda like religion, Mac users and dirty peasants really.

That cuts both ways you know....I've seen plenty here that want this game to crash and burn because they're dedicated EVE fans to the highest degree, and having other options out on the market bother them immensely, especially if said games do certain things that were promised in eve but never delivered:



Looks at walking in stations as an example.....

First off, star citizen has real physics, even to the point of being able to fly backwards and still fire your weapons, or go into third person view and see the maneuvering thrusters work, and if maneuvered too aggressively the player and will pass out, not to mention the ship also alter it's behavior and overall performance depending on how damaged it is, which both the pilot and other players that shot can see parts missing after a fight, the ship can also be destroyed by hitting an asteroid and also some have the ability to land on planets as well as fly on planet surfaces.


It's so beyond eve it isn't even funny anymore as it doesn't do A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G like this, period.


There was a video of eve showing a frigate and it was flying on planetary surface in 2004( yup 10 years ago), did anything come of that, nope.

There was walking in stations, which started in 2006 and did anything come out of that.....Only the officers quarters and that was it, no moving within the station or checking out businesses within the installation or making shady deals with less than reputable individuals....


CCP has been spinning it's wheels for so long and not knowing which direction to take the game, always changing small things but never really expanding the universe to the point that the lore within the game allows... We still have no clue who the jove are and what their motivations may be to help the other 4 factions with certain technology, the sleeper systems are a mystery of it's own, no attempt have been made to re open the eve gate....The list just goes on and on.


So comparing both games to that of differences between 2 consoles is hysterical, especially since star Citizen is PC exclusive and too demanding to run on even the new consoles, never mind the older PS3 or X360.....What this game represents is taking the next big and risky step in space sims, and if pulled off, might be the benchmark to beat for any other developer that wishes to make a space sim.

Everthing I described is in this video which was shown a couple of weeks ago and will be released in may for players to play it on their own computers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TWQFSzQyeM


Have fun making excuses now....






It went well beyond ideas and they spent a lot of resources developing to the point they did, since we have the captains quarters and it was hinted that more would be added, so how the heck is this players fault I have no clue.







Doesn't take much to satisfy you then...Since I've been with the game front the start, and even at the start of the game, it was suggested that eventually, pilots could become Jove....Well 11 years later and still nothing.

That's it?.....That's all you got left as an argument when it shows everything I described earlier, and that those who subscribed will be playing it in a couple of weeks.


Are you for real?

I already addressed this, but you were not paying attention. there is a video, big whoop. You STILL can NOT play anything described in SC besides the hanger mod, as of this date. Now in a few weeks, when and if the dog fight alpha is released then you cna say 'why yes i am playing the dog fight alpha and its xxx' Till then your answer is.. no. so there is no excuse. Its just a fact. And i have already admitted that it could be awesome. IDK i have not played the damn thing. Nor have you.




Your eve birthdate is 2009, so i can;t blame your noobness for not knowing your eve history. WiS was stopped because of the 'greed is good' news letter and the jita riots plus the mass unsubscribe that followed. This forced CCP's hand and they put all other game play except space based on hold. That was in 2011. you were clearly playing then. Unless your corp is an alt corp and you just recently came back. The customers told CCP to stop being idiots and fix there stuff. Mostly they rejected microtransactions but whatever. Thats neither here nor there. And you do realize that posting a video about how the dog fight is suppose to work, at this time, is kinda like using the planetary flight for eve video. As until you can play it, you do not know how or if it will work as advertized.




Correct, i have been in eve since 2004, 10 years, i have only unsubed a total of 6 months. IF that. Not once did i go 'well gee CCP promised i could play jove, i have not seen any jove.. maybe i'll just quit' CCP never said we could play as jove, they said possibly. But they have not found a reason for us to use or be jove. Thats the thing, CCP never officially said we would get planetary flight, it was a fanfest video of something they were working on, but that was all we got. A mock up done by the team for fan fest. Prolly took a few hours to slap together. Not once did they say 'we going to do this for Cold war, red moon rising, etc.' The other difference is.. i can play eve now. The point of trying to show you that just because CR says SC will play this way, is not true is clearly lost on you. Nothing is set in stone until you can actually play it. As i said WAY earlier, another game he made, he had to sell to another a company to finish. Why? because ti was too bloated and he kept adding stuff that would never work. So he bailed, and the other company took what he had, polished it up and it was a hit.

There comes a time, when being a perfectionist, and adding more and more is not a success. Hell steve jobs messed up several times with the lisa and the MAC. But he did have a smash with the imac and the ipod and ipad. You just have to wait and see if this will be a smash hit or a bloated game that doens;t work at all like CR and the rapid player base thought it might. you never know, something you think sounds 'really awesome and better then eve' now may be the bane of your existence when the game goes live. All i am saying is a little perspective is good. Worshiping at the alter blindly of some dude who made a few good games, but also had a few flopps is not the best way to do things.

Is it just me or do the posters who support SC seem super defensive, aggressive and arrogant in most of their replies here?

Way to woo folks to the game?

I also like how a subculture seems to have already formed where those who take a leap and invest in SC now are broskis and those who prefer to wait and try the finished product are scrubs.

I am not against having other options on the market but nor am I willing to spend money on something that is nothing but really wonky demo after two years of development, unlike EVE Valkyrie that made everyone want a Oculus Rift or how Elite Dangerous is shaping up to the point where I am like "shiiiiiiit.. I need a joystick!"

Or STO or SWTOR...

I hope SC is successful but they do promise and aweful lot of stuff and keeps promising stuff at a rate that is way above the rate they are delivering.