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Anti Gankers? Who? What? Where? Any ACTUALLY serious people?
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#121 - 2014-04-16 13:43:13 UTC
A pirate finds his way into the Anti-Ganking chat channel, hilarity ensues.

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Solecist Project
#122 - 2014-04-16 13:45:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
A pirate finds his way into the Anti-Ganking chat channel, hilarity ensues.

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Reported, because your post only serves as ad for your blog.

When I saw that you posted, I thought you would have probably something interesting to say.

Yet again, you are just... you.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#123 - 2014-04-16 14:28:19 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
A pirate finds his way into the Anti-Ganking chat channel, hilarity ensues.

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Reported, because your post only serves as ad for your blog.

When I saw that you posted, I thought you would have probably something interesting to say.

Yet again, you are just... you.

Arguably providing content for other players is more compelling than just sh!tting up local and forums as you do with your verbal diarrhea. :) Well, at least CCP seems to think so.

p.s.
You mad brah?

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#124 - 2014-04-16 14:30:15 UTC
A ganker can succeed by showing up anywhere, any time, and ganking anything.

While anti-gankers can certainly interfere with some of a ganker's activities, I can't imagine they could ever have the sort of omnipresence needed to make even one system "safe" from ganking. So I'm not convinced any achievable anti-ganking goal would be worthy of the effort required.

(Nice character name, by the way.)
Solecist Project
#125 - 2014-04-16 14:36:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Quote:

p.s.
You mad brah?

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I congratulate you for your intelligence. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#126 - 2014-04-16 14:39:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Solstice Project wrote:
A ganker can succeed by showing up anywhere, any time, and ganking anything.

While anti-gankers can certainly interfere with some of a ganker's activities, I can't imagine they could ever have the sort of omnipresence needed to make even one system "safe" from ganking. So I'm not convinced any achievable anti-ganking goal would be worthy of the effort required.

(Nice character name, by the way.)


Hi! ^^

I wondered when my former self would show up.

Thank you for the post. That you can't imagine omnipresence is normal,
because it's not really achieveable. Ganking isn't omnipresent either,
so that's not an issue.

I just realized that you sound familiar. ^^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2014-04-16 15:12:21 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
I just realized that you sound familiar. ^^

I've always thought so. Blink
Solecist Project
#128 - 2014-04-16 15:13:55 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
I just realized that you sound familiar. ^^

I've always thought so. Blink

I'm glad you recognize yourself. xD

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#129 - 2014-04-16 17:44:22 UTC
I don't know you and I usually don't waste my time with New Order trolls, but as you name me personally, I'll bite. For those that don't know me: I'm one of those people who hunt gankers and a channel-op in the Anti-ganking channel.

admiral root wrote:
Mostly they share terrible advice on everything from fitting a mining ship to proper recruiting practice.

If the channel is so bad and the advice that's being shared is so terrible, why is the channel constantly growing despite us not advertising it aggressively? And why do so many gankers want to have an alt in there?

admiral root wrote:
Anyone giving good advice tends to get the Spanish inquisition from people like Sarah Flynt and Jennifer en Marland, who seem to dislike anyone disagreeing with their view of things.

Which type of "good advice" do you mean? The one below or the one that Feyd is bragging about? Due to the nature of the channel and due to past experiences we are forced to moderate the channel. We'll kick anybody who wants to disrupt channel operation. That includes but is not limited to:

  • gankers, known ganker-alts or ganker-helpers
  • people advertising ganking (unless it's clear that it's for fighting gankers)
  • people advertising any form of extortion racket, including but not limited to selling mining permits
  • trolls and spammers
  • people behaving as if they're 12 years old

This might come as surprise to you but there are a few New Order members/alts in the channel that we know of and who haven't been banned because they know how to behave and to be constructive.

admiral root wrote:
They also seem to have an obsession with using cloaked ships to surprise gankers, and wanting to camp multiple gates and stations at the same time in the hopes of killing someone who's -5 or below. Their purpose for those camps is to safeguard mining ops - they give you a blank look when you suggest that it would be easier (and require fewer people) to simply camp your own mining op.

I for one only started to train into a Falcon (that's probably what you mean by cloaked ships) when the gankers that I hunted at the time started to use covert scouts. So please don't mix up cause and effect. The mere fact that you're explicitly mentioning it here further shows me, that it was the right decision. There are many of us who only rarely mine (like myself) or don't mine at all, so I suppose that "good advice" that you're giving there only means: "go away and mind your own business". Sorry to disappoint you, but: we won't do that.

admiral root wrote:
This is completely true. Even the mere suggestion of pre-emptively ganking an obvious gank fleet will get you into big trouble with these people if the gankers aren't -5 or below.

If that was even remotely true, the first two people that I'd have to kick from the channel were Jennifer and myself. Any discussion or advice about how to fight gankers is welcome which also includes ganking them or their scouts. There was a recent heated discussion about ganking miners that bought a mining permit however. As the discussion lead nowhere as there were basically only two opinions clashing: "do it or don't do it", we ended it and it is still unwanted because it only leads to a heated atmosphere. Nobody was kicked because of it btw.

Also: there are certain people who constantly tell other players that they're playing EVE wrong. Hint: it's not us.

I'm not going to comment on the rest of your hateful trolling except for one thing as I've seen it come up here and there:
admiral root wrote:
Dang, one of the true anti-gankers even set them up a mumble server, but the "leaders" of this group consider hanging out on voice comms to be metagaming to an unacceptable level.
Jennifer already commented on the first part, so I'll skip that. First: we don't have any leaders. Second: has it ever occurred to you that many people simply don't like to be on voice comms because they hate to wear a headset all night or don't want to be bothered with it all the time? Personally I only use voice comms for fleet ops where it can be very helpful but other than that I really don't care about it. But I also don't tell others to not use it; by all means: do it if you like it but don't tell others that they're inferior players because they don't.

Sick of High-Sec gankers? Join the public channel Anti-ganking and the dedicated intel channel Gank-Intel !
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#130 - 2014-04-16 17:53:18 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
I don't know you and I usually don't waste my time with New Order trolls....

First: we don't have any leaders.


Considers their biggest enemy to be nothing but trolls and by extention doesnt understand their purpose or MO

Has no leadership

Certainly dont advertise or inspire like their enemy

I wonder if its the same Anti-Ganking channel that discusses making ganks on boxing pilots with 10 mining ships, orca and freighter because the solos get jelly

Im sure your faction will go far

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#131 - 2014-04-16 18:11:51 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Sarah Flynt wrote:
I don't know you and I usually don't waste my time with New Order trolls....

First: we don't have any leaders.


Considers their biggest enemy to be nothing but trolls and by extention doesnt understand their purpose or MO

Then let me rephrase it so that even you can't misunderstand it no matter how much you want: "I don't know you and I usually don't waste my time answering troll-posts by a New Order alt...."

Sick of High-Sec gankers? Join the public channel Anti-ganking and the dedicated intel channel Gank-Intel !
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#132 - 2014-04-16 18:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Sarah Flynt wrote:

Then let me rephrase it so that even you can't misunderstand it no matter how much you want: "I don't know you and I usually don't waste my time answering troll-posts by a New Order alt...."


So...

You are saying Im NOT a New Order alt because you are replying?

Or that all posts which disagree with your position and point to the flaws in said position are troll posts because they disagree with you?

Obviously Id prefer the former.

You may need to explain, as you pointed out ("even you can't misunderstand") you are so intellectually my superior, even though the tautology you are employing grammatically suggests I don't misunderstand much; in your opinion I allegedly choose to be ignorant of the facts.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#133 - 2014-04-16 18:30:54 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:

admiral root wrote:
Mostly they share terrible advice on everything from fitting a mining ship to proper recruiting practice.

If the channel is so bad and the advice that's being shared is so terrible, why is the channel constantly growing despite us not advertising it aggressively? And why do so many gankers want to have an alt in there?

Hint: not because of intel.
This channel has few real anti-gankers, a lot of New Order spies, but probably most of the people in there are death miners who just come there to whine together in a chorus with other death miners. It is simply hilarious, and at least that's my reason why I have an alt in there.