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Psychotic Monk for CSM9

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#141 - 2014-04-08 19:08:32 UTC
The War Dec Podcast was phenomenal and confirmed that Monk will be at the very top of my ballots. All of them.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Sarah Flynt
Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#142 - 2014-04-08 21:01:11 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
As for a question that's being asked repeatedly, I'd like to address this now that fewer people are openly howling for blood and hopefully we can talk about this more or less rationally.

So, without further ado, here's a list of things you aren't mad about:

Someone getting mad at their attacker.

A list of things that routinely cost people every last space-dime they have

Out of the box thinking costing someone a great deal.

A singing ransom, known in some circles as 'torture'. Last time you saw one of these you thought it was hilarious.

I think I covered all the points. Anything I missed that you're mad about?

Actually I’m not really sure if you’re just trolling (very bad in your own CSM thread, especially with serious questions like these) or if you really don’t have any clue what all the fuss was and still is about (even worse as the self-proclaimed "pirate king" who should be an expert on the matter).

The least that I would expect is a straight-up answer, especially from you as it should be a key-area of your expertise. And that is also what I primarily expect from any CSM-member:
First: to be able to express his opinion about matters in his area of expertise, even if it is unpopular; second and even more important: to be able to give a comprehensible explanation of how he came to that opinion.

If you don’t feel comfortable to comment on recent events because you’re somehow biased (e.g. personal involvement, personally knowing involved people, etc) everybody will understand that - but you have to say so. But answering very specific and relevant questions that need to be answered - first and foremost for your own camp - like the one by Eva Darke "Specifically, I’d like to know where you draw the line (if at all) on what is, and is not, acceptable player behavior" with a bunch of loosely related youtube videos, wiki-links and nothing else only conveys one message: I’m not fit to be a CSM-member, not by a long shot.

So, let me ask you again: Imagine you have a CSM-meeting with CCP and CCP asks the CSM the following question: "We’d like to know where you draw the line (if at all) on what is, and is not, acceptable player behavior". What will be your answer?

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Danalee
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#143 - 2014-04-08 22:20:53 UTC
Sarah Flynt,

These are NOT serious questions. They are trollbait (see: I'm here Lol)
Why should a "pirate king" pick a side in any moral crusade let alone a character assasination by other CSM member(s)
Let the CSM focus on what's important and not which player has sand in his/her unmentionables, thanks.

To add to this, mister Monk was kind enough to put your bias in perspective; The hyped up non-issue that wasted CCP's time and put them in a tight spot because someone forced their hand was built on events that have been enjoyed by the community and were taking place since the start, 10+ years ago.
Activities that attrackted many new players to this unique game.
I found the answer to be quite clear, if you open up to different viewpoints, you could too!

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Esha Amphal
Doomheim
#144 - 2014-04-08 22:55:05 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
Actually I’m not really sure if you’re just trolling (very bad in your own CSM thread, especially with serious questions like these) or if you really don’t have any clue what all the fuss was and still is about (even worse as the self-proclaimed "pirate king" who should be an expert on the matter).

The least that I would expect is a straight-up answer, especially from you as it should be a key-area of your expertise. And that is also what I primarily expect from any CSM-member:
First: to be able to express his opinion about matters in his area of expertise, even if it is unpopular; second and even more important: to be able to give a comprehensible explanation of how he came to that opinion.

If you don’t feel comfortable to comment on recent events because you’re somehow biased (e.g. personal involvement, personally knowing involved people, etc) everybody will understand that - but you have to say so. But answering very specific and relevant questions that need to be answered - first and foremost for your own camp - like the one by Eva Darke "Specifically, I’d like to know where you draw the line (if at all) on what is, and is not, acceptable player behavior" with a bunch of loosely related youtube videos, wiki-links and nothing else only conveys one message: I’m not fit to be a CSM-member, not by a long shot.

So, let me ask you again: Imagine you have a CSM-meeting with CCP and CCP asks the CSM the following question: "We’d like to know where you draw the line (if at all) on what is, and is not, acceptable player behavior". What will be your answer?


Are we really unable to put 2 and 2 together? Can we not read between the lines? Psychotic Monk responded with the facts that were necessary, and it's really not that difficult to draw your own conclusions. I suppose he assumes a certain threshold of intelligence from the player base by not spelling it out for you. He thought you were smarter than this. For most of us it was message received, loud and clear.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#145 - 2014-04-09 00:34:16 UTC
Monk. Your squirrel ransoms. How the hell did you or whoever it was make that voice?

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Eva Darke
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2014-04-09 00:45:10 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
answering very specific and relevant questions that need to be answered - first and foremost for your own camp - like the one by Eva Darke
Danalee wrote:
These are NOT serious questions. They are trollbait (see: I'm here Lol)
For the record, my questions to Monk were made in all seriousness. I really DID vote for Monk last year, and really DO like what he stands for.

I've heard Monk talk about this sort of thing before in interviews and podcasts, so I didn't expect to be surprised by his answers. However, given this is his CSM campaign thread, and is being read by people who may not have listened to those, I was interested in reading Monk's direct response. By all accounts, he's certainly capable of articulating his position on these matters in a way that demands respect, even from those who don't agree with him.

Esha Amphal wrote:
Psychotic Monk responded with the facts that were necessary, and it's really not that difficult to draw your own conclusions.
No, it isn't. The conclusion is that Monk isn't taking this seriously, and that may be justified given some of the comments people have made in this thread. But as a potential CSM member, I had hoped he would handle it with a little more professionalism. Sad
Yi-Ming Gren
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#147 - 2014-04-09 01:14:26 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
As of yesterday there are now 3 accounts from my side voting for Monk.

Really liked the Wardec Pod cast.




Read the blog from start to finish (was a long meeting), got both of my accounts on Monk.

Genseric Tollaris
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2014-04-09 01:54:42 UTC
Vote 1 Mr Monk, and remember, vote early and vote often!
Danalee
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#149 - 2014-04-09 05:52:50 UTC
Eva Darke wrote:

I've heard Monk talk about this sort of thing before in interviews and podcasts, so I didn't expect to be surprised by his answers. However, given this is his CSM campaign thread, and is being read by people who may not have listened to those, I was interested in reading Monk's direct response. By all accounts, he's certainly capable of articulating his position on these matters in a way that demands respect, even from those who don't agree with him.


You have a point. But please consider the following;
Monk has nothing to gain from choosing a side, especially now in an environment where getting involved might just get some old crocodilles want to bother torpedoing his campaign.

By linking similar cases, he did make his point clear. No need to spell it out.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#150 - 2014-04-09 14:00:00 UTC
While I prefer a 7 day stasis approach to someone ducking a wardec by leaving corp (or taking a dec with them to their new corp) to close the existing exploit allowing people to duck wars entirely, as opposed to a more 'carrot' approach espoused by Monk, I fully support Psychotic Monk as someone who can best represent hisec fuckery.

+1, would vote again (and did).

F
Mag's
Azn Empire
#151 - 2014-04-10 14:06:13 UTC
I considered not voting this year, but this thread has changed my mind.

You get my vote.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
#152 - 2014-04-10 17:46:55 UTC
Sarah Flynt wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
As for a question that's being asked repeatedly, I'd like to address this now that fewer people are openly howling for blood and hopefully we can talk about this more or less rationally.

So, without further ado, here's a list of things you aren't mad about:

Someone getting mad at their attacker.

A list of things that routinely cost people every last space-dime they have

Out of the box thinking costing someone a great deal.

A singing ransom, known in some circles as 'torture'. Last time you saw one of these you thought it was hilarious.

I think I covered all the points. Anything I missed that you're mad about?

Actually I’m not really sure if you’re just trolling (very bad in your own CSM thread, especially with serious questions like these) or if you really don’t have any clue what all the fuss was and still is about (even worse as the self-proclaimed "pirate king" who should be an expert on the matter).

The least that I would expect is a straight-up answer, especially from you as it should be a key-area of your expertise. And that is also what I primarily expect from any CSM-member:
First: to be able to express his opinion about matters in his area of expertise, even if it is unpopular; second and even more important: to be able to give a comprehensible explanation of how he came to that opinion.

If you don’t feel comfortable to comment on recent events because you’re somehow biased (e.g. personal involvement, personally knowing involved people, etc) everybody will understand that - but you have to say so. But answering very specific and relevant questions that need to be answered - first and foremost for your own camp - like the one by Eva Darke "Specifically, I’d like to know where you draw the line (if at all) on what is, and is not, acceptable player behavior" with a bunch of loosely related youtube videos, wiki-links and nothing else only conveys one message: I’m not fit to be a CSM-member, not by a long shot.

So, let me ask you again: Imagine you have a CSM-meeting with CCP and CCP asks the CSM the following question: "We’d like to know where you draw the line (if at all) on what is, and is not, acceptable player behavior". What will be your answer?

The obvious answer is that anything within the rules of the game is acceptable player behavior. If Monk hasn't stated this publicly in interviews (which I'm sure he has), he has at least expressed it privately.

From his post, it looks like Monk is in the camp that most of us here are in, which is that the bonus rounds are no worse than similar celebrated traditions which have been happening in Eve for over 10 years now. It was simply blown out of proportion.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#153 - 2014-04-10 23:18:40 UTC
Hey, my internet is finally fixed! I exist again!

Yeah, I was trying to be inscrutable when I posted before. I didn't think it had to be spelled out, but apparently it does, so let me be explicit:

I see nothing in a bonus room that hasn't been an accepted and celebrated part of eve online basically forever and I see no reason that we should fundamentally harm the uniqueness of this game for some people who seem to have forgotten that.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#154 - 2014-04-10 23:31:32 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Hey, my internet is finally fixed! I exist again!




Welcome back to the 21st century, Monk.

Highsec was getting boring without you.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Mynxee
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
#155 - 2014-04-11 00:30:01 UTC
Good luck in the election. Gave you a spot on my slate after listening to your excellent Cap Stable interview. I love the dark side of Eve and it would be good to see that perspective represented on the CSM.

Lost in space, looking for sigs...

Blog: Cloaky Wanderer

Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#156 - 2014-04-11 01:05:05 UTC
Holy ****, I just got an endorsement from Mynxee. Pardon me while I gush like a school girl.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#157 - 2014-04-11 01:11:55 UTC
Psychotic Monk has won my vote simply because of how he embraces newbros with open arms.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Kyr Jacelern
RNG Manipulation
#158 - 2014-04-11 05:36:38 UTC
I'd just like to say that Psychotic Monk doesn't just play the villain - sometimes he plays the knight too, and he does it all without a hint of malice, and with every intention to spread knowledge of game mechanics and highsec strategies whenever possible.

This very evening, word leaked out that a pilot with a public killright available had either decided to disregard the dangling sword of Damocles over his head, or was completely unaware of the risk; he was currently sitting in a Rattlesnake, assisting his corp with a bash of a offline POS tower. Realizing we had a golden opportunity to personally deliver a ganked pilot's verdict upon this CONCORD violator (yes, yes, AND score a shiny faction BS kill at the same time), we gathered our fleet and logged onto Teamspeak. To my surprise, we soon found ourselves coordinating our operation with none other than the "pirate king" himself. Despite initially being 19 long jumps away from the rally point, he revealed the depth of his preparations by jumpcloning 14 of them away to put himself ahead of other gathering members of the fleet, then conjuring a torpedo fit pvp Golem with which he used to earn top damage on the ensuing act of justice, proving himself to be an adept lawman as well.

As we scooped loot and posted mails, to my surprise he began challenging the deceased Rattlesnake's corpmates - two battleships and a Drake - to duels, clearly desiring more from the encounter than than the brutal lightning-from-the-blue ambush we had just delivered. Unfortunately, none of them were accepted, and the remaining gang fled the field to dock up, their confidence in shooting an unmoving object in space apparently shattered by the unexpected attack.

He then attempted to convo the pilot who had just lost his ship to a game mechanic of which the implications he did not likely understand - not to smacktalk him and boast as many would assume of a "ganker" or "pirate", but to debrief and explain just what had just happened to him. To our collective dismay, the player's response to the request was to simply log off. Perhaps the former pilot of the Rattlesnake thought he was denying a griefer a chance to taunt him, but in Psychotic Monk's case nothing could be further than the truth. Unsatisfied with leaving things so openended, evemails were sent for future contact - I hope they bear fruit in the future.

I hope this anecdote from one of Psychotic Monk's fleetmates allows for a more personal glimpse into Psychotic Monk's mindset. To those of you who might have been uncomfortable with a self-proclaimed "pirate king" on CSM, realize that he doesn't just limit himself to "playing the villain". He's perfectly willing to play the wandering judge as well, as long as highsec content is created - or in the language I speak, ships explode. I'd like to tell other stories of my brief chance meetings with this man of mystery - tackling him when he suddenly appeared out of the aether to repair a battleship that had taken our bait, or watching him bravely (and suicidally) spearhead an attack against an entire enemy BS gang on a lowsec gate, tanking gateguns all the while, in naught but a Thorax all for the sake of a shady backroom scam - but perhaps I should just say that Psychotic Monk spits in the face of the stagnation of the game many bittervets complain about, and always finds a way to make EVE fun both with existing mechanics and in spite of them.

Now imagine what a player like this could do on the CSM for your gaming experience.

Psychotic Monk for CSM!
bunmastahflex
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#159 - 2014-04-12 07:04:18 UTC  |  Edited by: bunmastahflex
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#160 - 2014-04-13 16:09:41 UTC
Just voted with all accounts.

Remove standings and insurance.