Player Features and Ideas Discussion

@ CCP Fozzie

Currently neuts can receive bonuses from both a ship's roles and rigs but the Nos does not get buffed by a rig.

I think there should be a new rig that increases nos amount or reduces the cycle time further.

You could just modify the existing Egress Port Maximizer rig to allow for a bonus to one of the above. thus allowing for pure cap warefare ships to field a variety of neut and nos.

You're not serious are you, Ranger?

You predicted that Nos would "become more popular on all cruiser class, and several BC's". And now you're saying that "I'm seeing more fits being created, shared, and used than I have seen in a long time on cruiser size and down".

There's two problems here. Firstly, you've already conceded that the BC part of your prediction was wrong, so it's a little bit odd for you to be congratulating yourself for a successful prediction.

Secondly, perhaps you could explain where you're seeing these Mallers, Omens, Caracals, Moas and Vexors that are routinely dropping weapons for Nos, because they sound like... unorthodox... fits. At least fitting a Nos/neut makes some sense on a Vexor, Stabber or Rupture, but you did predict that all cruisers would be fitting Nos. Are you saying that your prediction of NOS Caracals has come true? Where could I find such a mysterious ship?

I read the title as Nosferatu Hurf Blurf.

Are people really avoiding the nosferatus? Do people really consider them underpowered? I felt they were arguably a little overpowered.

Does the 'Strigoi', 'Vrykolas' and the other Nosferatu actually exist in-game?

This. This is why my Sentinel has zero NOS on it.

There is an odd situation on blood raider line, specifically cruor. We know changes will make its web and neut/nos out of sync. I believe the main idea of the change is allowing cruor to reach faster (cruor is always slower than others) target than netu/nos him. As it is explained many times in pirate ship thread, cruor will face opponents web when he get close enough and will not be able to reach his neut/nos range. This makes cruors main power ineffective.

We dont want to make one ship too powerfull over others. So CCP did not grant similar bonus for cruor web and neut/nos ( I still think it is a wrong decision). CCP can instead buff nos in a different manner. Make its overload bonus as range bonus so that it can reach web range. All the other ships will benefit from it if they use nos but we know it will be mostly used by blood raiders. So the change will not be specifically for cruor but it will solve one of big problems for the ship.

If you did this, you'd need a specialised ship (proteus, arazu, etc) to kite the new bhaalgorn while keeping it warp disrupted

While this is a nice change, it doesn't address their problems on small-class hulls and the general uselessness of utility high slots. Small nos/neuts need their range extended to match warp scramblers. This has been asked for for years; since you're finally looking at the modules, I say it's about time it gets done.

I just wanted to tell you that you were never right, you try to ruin nos at all possible cost. You have completly no idea about balancing modules. Hence you will never be "right again" since you never were in first place.

Agreed. Any change made to small neuts/nos is pointless due to the fact you will never get in range of anything in order to use them. This makes frigate PVP 1 dimensional and stale. Webs are WAY more effective than neuts/nos and is why mid slots are way more valuable than utility high slots.