Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It doesn't make sense from a gameplay perspective though. One of the advantages of missiles is that you can choose damage type. Cutting down on the users choice and the ways to influence the fight is surely a bad thing. I just wondered what is the reasoning purely from a gameplay perspective for having such bonuses.

If you are old enough to remember, then actually that was the status quo for many years. It is only recently that we started getting all these missile damage specific bonuses.

Edit - 2005 player, so you should know this.

that doesn't mean it's the way it should or should not be. when I think missiles, I think of range versatility, capless, FOFs, useful T2 ammo (unlike LR turrets), and less ewar vulnerability.

If you can't afford a 40m rig on a 250m cruiser, you can always shore this up with implants. Needing to make actual fitting choices is a good thing, ships shouldn't just be able to automatically fit the largest guns and oversized tank without any fitting help.

No one is going to swap a Trimark II for an ancillary router just to upgrade the guns. Too much of a trade off for too little gain.

I find, that the vigilant could use more a tankbonus instead of the web bonus

The gila looks ok, but it is stil hard to fit and with that dronebonus, its like having two Bcs with you.
The ashimmu is ok
The Phantasm... I suggest to make the 20% bonus to afterburner speed also work for microwarpdrives and maybe increase cap and recharge rate
The cynabal is ok, but increase its speed to about 320m/s, that it is faster than a stabber of vagabond, but increase signature radius too.

Great job ruining the Gila. The only fun drone boat that had enough drone bay to bring all those useful little helpers (5 shield/armor/hull repair drones, salvage drones, light-med-heavy-sentry DPS drones in flavours). You could fly in high, low and 0.0 without refitting and adapt (<= people here like that word) to situations by bringing a drone pool.

Way to CCPee all over a ship that, for a change, actually works good in the game, again. And don't get me started on Ishtars.

For those of you are interested, i have some paper values of "regular fitting(s)"

these fits assume no implants / boosts / drugs or bananas

RLM fit.

[Gila Post patch, pvp]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II (x3)

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Drone Navigation Computer II (eg of mid drone mod use)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile (x4)
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hammerhead II x2 (after the done changes these will be going 3 276m/s with the drone navi mod and 2 520 with out)

this fit has 2 CPU and <3 grid spair
DPS: 790~ (170 missls / 620 drones) all lvl 5 skills could push this to 800 easy
Tank: 52 000~ EHP Buffer (12 700 shield HP / EM:64 TH:61 KI:71 EX:75) passive 100 DPS regen
Speed: 1.75km/s
Targeting: 72.5km / 344 scan res

fits with HAMs and HMLs don't change the DPS much the main meat is the drones of course
fitting HAMs or HMLs will require CPU rig as well as the loss of the med nos and slight drop in tank.

kind of confirms that the drone bonus is too high... have you tried using any BCU's instead of all DDA's?

use of BCUs would be pointless as the thier CPU consumption is too high