Wormholes

please yes

And here lies one telltale issue.

Something like this is going to make it far more dangerous to make isk in WH space. That being said while WH income is good, it really doesn't get "great" until C5+

C1-C4 income can get pretty decent, but when you factor in all of the "extra" stuff the isk/hr really isn't amazing. You have the logistics/cost of a POS. You have the logistics of getting loot to market, manually splitting isk between members (since it isn't bounty based). You have lots of static rolling to hope to keep isk flowing vs respawning 0.0 anoms and unlimited missions.

Bottom line is something this drastic will likely empty out much of C1-C4 space. I roam around a fair amount and it is already empty enough. I want more groups to come live in WH space, not fewer.

What I still don't get is what is the goal? I don't recall people really complaining hard about this issue until the overlay came about. So fix the overlay issue. Either disable it in WH space or make it scan at such a low frequency it is not viable as a passive intel tool. Why is there suddenly a need to swing the pendulum farther?

Uh... I'm pretty sure the're referring to the actual wormholes, not wormhole space. All K162s are one side of a wormhole, that hole just doesn't necessarily go to or from an Anoikis system.

This is interesting. A signature spawns and begins to announce it's presence gradually, like a water ripple effect, starting at 1 AU and increasing in size untill it is seen from anywhere in the system.

This adds some interesting mechanics because depending on where the signature spawned different parts of the system would be notified of it at different times.

I wonder if it is even possible to implement or how it would've behaved in very large/small systems.

I'd be all over this as soon as AFK cloaking wasn't a thing anymore.


(this is a dumb, bad idea)

Let's please not try and tie the absolute minefield that a cloaking mechanic discussion gets into with a discussion of incoming WH sig delays.

Any idea looks reasonable compared to the angry rhetoric that gets thrown around in an AFK cloaking threadnaught.

Nine times out of ten if someone rolls into you your caps are stuck in place or scrammed. If you don't have a PvP fleet onstandby or able to get scrambled, then you're probably going to die to a decent group. It's not all that risk free.

Faxanadu Phantasm your question has already been answered by multiple people in this very thread you should probably read them before posting.

In fact most the people i see posting in this thread that WH space is already to dangerous have hardly lost any ships in it.....

I'd love to know how much ISK is lost in ship losses compared to how much ISK is made in W-Space, im willing to bet there is a HUGE discrepancy.

I have to disagree with the idea that W-space is too safe. My corp has some W-space dwellers, and it is quite dangerous. Making it more so is not a step in the right direction. I disagree with this idea.

I agree with delaying the sig from showing up on the sensor overlay for a minute or two, but if people are scanning with probes out and doing the right thing. Why should they be put at a disadvantage. This change seems like it would only benefit large pvp groups. I think it would have the opposite effect desired. Discouraging people from WH space, if even when they were paying attention and doing the right thing there was no way for them mitigate risk. Furthermore I think this would only lower the bar for larger group's, pandering lower skill instead of rewarding those with high skill.