Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well if you use metrics to justify having a gameplay mechanic that makes you unable to deal damage during 35seconds in the middle of a fight...

when are we going to see RCML for the phoenix?

having to use popularity metrics like that just means you have no idea what you're doing

but pve is irrelevant

So, you've created a niche weapon system for one job, and then you've told the whinners to choose another weapon system that won't do the job?

Mind the statistics. You can be drowned in a lake with average 50cm depth.

EvE is PvP game. Rest is just shards.

Rapids were designed for smaller targets than ships using them. Its niche, for PvE weapon platform must be universal. I know, with long reload you can't choose dmg which is main missile advatage, but they are happy with that and i don't think you can't change it. Missile user here.

Because there is no alternative. What a completely useless statistic. Seriously though, what else would you fit? Heavy missiles? That has to be a joke right? They are even worse. You fit HMs you'll get killed by an Ibis.

I'm in the group that uses RLML on my Caracal fits. Not because I like using them though. I use them because there's no other choice. HMs are just not good when engaging frigates and other cruisers. You cannot take the fact I have done damage with that type of launcher as an indicator that the launcher works well. What kind of logic is that??


It's almost as if you're completely oblivious to just how bad it is. Do you even play this game? Have you tried roaming in a Caracal with RLML? It is a horribly mechanic. You somehow keep trying to justify it for no good reason. In fact, you're not even acknowledging there's a problem with it.

And NO, there are no other launchers to choose from. Maybe if you hadn't completely broken HMs, we'd have another launcher but as it is, we don't.


We can't. According to Fozzie it's all peachy.

For medium sized launchers you have RLML, HAM and HM. We know the damage application of the heavy missile is just appalling. The applied damage, even on webbed and TPd frigates is just beyond horrendous and even on cruisers it's below average. The fact people pick RLML doesn't mean they are great. It just means the other system is worse.

If we take your popularity stat we can also conclude that in the last few months HM have never been so bad, since even less people are using them. Maybe it should give you an indication of just how broken that system is.

Or alternatively you could just ditch the useless popularity stats and actually acknowledge the feedback you've been given.

rlml are the only weapon system left for missle users that you can hope of killing those pesky ( buffed to infinity and a lil bit beyond) ceptors so no wonder that we see a nice "use percentage" on those
and there is that "UI and usability " problem - yeah 35 seconds reload - so instead of creating some fancy new mechanic to allow faster reload we play a lil bit with overheating and how it affects those launchers ie. they gain a much bigger rof bonus from it and they can oh for a longer but we revert the stats to the pre rewok state - this way we get functional pve launchers and a deadly on demand burst weapon

ps. CCP why u hate missles so much ?

i was allways wondering why those never got any animation
ps. fixed that lil ugly thing you pointed out

At a quick glance what you are asking for is the same thing that has been asked for over and over since November last year. Unfortunately it seems CCP Fozzie is not prepared to look at alternatives. He is now vindicated in his statement that "Burst Mechanic Will Be Fun" by metrics (which by the way only show what they are programmed to show). If he really had the best interests of RLML in mind he would take notice of statments like;
from someone who actually uses them.

CCP does not want feedback regarding the Burst Mechanic, unless it is positive. As there is no real positive feedback it is being manufactured by metrics.
So over the last 6 weeks, metrics has seen the highest usage of RLML "EVER".
This can mean many things;
Prior to Rubicon and the RLML burst mechanic very few people used RLML. So even a very low usage number shows a high uptake statistically.
The interceptor buffs are too high and people are getting desperate enough to use RLML as they are advertised as the answer to killing fast frigates.
Many people who used to use RLML prior to Rubicon have had them sitting around for months, unable to sell them except at a loss so have decided (like me) to use them till the ship gets killed then move on.

I have more scenarios but you guys have to be tired of me blabbering on by now so I'll leave you with;

These few words tell me EVERYTHING needed about the future of RLML;