EVE General Discussion

So, as a producer of Carriers, I logged on and first thing I checked was the carrier BPOs.

I see quite seemingly random fluctuations in the component ingredients. I will need to sit down and work out what the cost change is, but overall, carriers will go up in price.

So I have to ask - what was the reason for this?

Why change what it takes to make a carrier? Why make them more expensive?

I absolutely fail to see how this is related.

BECAUSE they've made dreads cheaper they needed to make carriers more expensive?

That's like saying "We made Battlecruisers more expensive, so Shuttles are cheaper now"

Carriers are going up in price.

More components in the carrier = more minerals in the carrier = more base cost.

There's no comparison to be made, a carrier build today is more expensive than a carrier built before the patch.

I don't see any reason why carriers input components has anything to do with balance changes.

The ships were rebalanced for COMBAT, not COST.

Okay, let me clear you up. You're not getting what I'm saying.

2 Things:

1) Carriers were not "reconfigured". Supers and dreads were, carriers were not changed.

2) The "parts" does not add up to match the "reconfiguration" for carriers.

Supers and Dreads were made cheaper. This was because they dreads longer have drone bays (so we don't have to build those drone bays, so they're cheaper). And Supers were reduced in Drone Bay size.

For Dreads, No Drone Bay = Less parts = less costs = cheaper.
^ This makes sense.

Carriers were made more expensive. They now require more Drone Bay components. But (see 1) they did not get any changes to their drone bays.

For Carriers, Same Drone = More Parts = more costs = more expensive.
^ This does not make sense.



Edit, actually, now I think about it, the changes to Supers make no sense either.

They reduced the size of the SuperCarrier Drone bay, but increased the number of Drone Bay components.

There just seems to be no reason for these arbitrary cost changes, and it's small "unimportant" tweaks like this that will cause the market to react.

All carriers, which are usually people's first capital ship, are going to go up in price. There just seems no reasoning behind this rebalance.

If a CCP employee comes here and says "We thought carriers were too cheap, so we changed it." That'd be fine. I'd accept it.

You're missing the part where it uses different parts but the same minerals. At least that's what the notes said. Never saw those changes mentioned by any dev elsewhere. Seems stupid to change build requirements of regular carriers since there were no other changes to justify it.

They aren't using the same minerals.

The parts go up by 7, but down only by 2.

So is CCP increasing certain components of a carrier while at the same time decreasing other components? Or are they just increasing the components needed for no reason?

I fail to see why they should increase the cost of building a carrier since nothing has been changed with it. They shouldn't even be doing it if they are not changing the stats of the carrier.

I fail to see why supercarriers or carrier should need more capital drone bay when they are not getting an increase in drone bay capacity.

Their logic makes no sense and the changes should be reverted.

CCP is failing again.

I also wondered about this when the patch notes arrived. The only thing I could justify it with was that CCP wants to keep the general material flow in the game the same. So while the producers of the ships will get new and sometimes illogical changes to what is needed, those who produce for example Drone Bays would still have the same demand, although from a different source, keeping the prices stable.

Personally I think it feels like a pretty haphazard change, but it's possible CCP actually put some thought behind it (although I doubt it).

More drone bays is a good thing, why, because it doesnt devalue a Drone Bay BPO, bare in mind that in a single patch that BPO became useless on 13 different ships, and was a huuuuge part of building a Supercarrier, infact ide go so far as to say, Drone Bay BPOs are the most bought of all the Capital BPOs, so this just, saves the market so to speak.

As for whining about it, profit from it, you can see Carriers will rise in price, so build and store as many as possible, buy them cheap and sell them in a few weeks time