These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Worlds Within a World - The EVE Universe Monument

First post First post First post
Author
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#101 - 2014-02-05 16:05:39 UTC
Since when is customer appreciation a form of Vanity ????

vanity: excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements.

Celebrating one's playerbase does not qualify as this at all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2014-02-05 16:05:54 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Just exactly as you just did right here. Congratulations, creep.

i say i agree with you and i get called names Straight i accept your congratulations with thanks
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#103 - 2014-02-05 16:07:48 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
I was expecting to be underwhelmed.
I won! :D


This is CCP's "Open Door policy" Cool

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF

ZeeWolf Novus
Saor Alba
#104 - 2014-02-05 16:07:58 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Same tired old arguments used against Maya Lins' minimalist design for the Vietnam Memorial in Washingto DC. "Nobody will go. It's ugly. A black slab has nothing to do with Vietnam". Blah blah blah.

It's so popular they can't hardly handle the crowds.

Time will tell all. It always does.


I really cant see myself going all the way to Iceland just to see some slabs with my name on it. Given the number of characters active in Eve right now, that'll be some small writing.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#105 - 2014-02-05 16:09:53 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue?
How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people?

Eve is a virtual world.
What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about?
CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita.

It would have more value to more of the player base.



How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument?
How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played?
How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money?

And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec?


Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock?
And I would suggest the segment of players that re-sub to get their player name immortalized will not likely be the type to hang around in the game. Whatever factors that drove them to unsub in the first place will remain.
I strongly doubt that any revenue increase in subs will outweigh the costs of this venture.

I guess that CCP is actually in pretty good shape financially, if they can afford this thing.

And as for high sec being nerfed by this, I will not disappoint all my followers and detractors.

How about this as conspiracy theory

1. CCP is in great shape financially because they would not be throwing silly money at this if they were not. Because they must have some kind of cushion, that means that CCP must feel they could weather the financial storm if some significant segment of their player base quit, also known as some percentage of high sec. So the faction within CCP that wants to decimate high sec is given the blessing of Hilmar, and sweeping nerfs to high sec are implemented, and CCP takes a short term hit in subs, but with the new game mechanics, draws in every sociopath that plays video games, and Eve's sub rate doubles to 1 million in 12 months, and within 2 years, outstrips WoW.

At that point, a new monument is erected, depicting Hilmar in his flowing Nordic robes, leading the charge of the null sec cartels luminaries against some defenceless high sec miner. Such luminaries flanking Hilmar we will include the effigies of all the people that helped create this new Nirvana, like soundwave, fozzie, seagull, and mittens.


Now, is that tinfoil enough for you today, or do you need something more?
Darth Sith
Genbuku.
Psycho Unicorn Squad
#106 - 2014-02-05 16:10:05 UTC
Wow .. that timer was the biggest let down I can remember .. .

I would have preferred my 10 yet vet station that was promised a year ago TBH :(

Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#107 - 2014-02-05 16:12:34 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Older players resubscribing is a bad thing ? REALLY ? TRULY ????


Obviously older players re-subbing is a great thing.

However, it's a long term fail -- this is just a publicity stunt.

Nobody will care about this.

Put in other terms: why did those players unsub to begin with? Does this monument correct those reasons?

Will they come back and say "Oh man, this monument is so great. I'm so glad I came back. Without the monument, EVE Online is just not as fun of a video game."

Really?
ZeeWolf Novus
Saor Alba
#108 - 2014-02-05 16:13:27 UTC
Darth Sith wrote:
Wow .. that timer was the biggest let down I can remember .. .

I would have preferred my 10 yet vet station that was promised a year ago TBH :(



I would hope that after 10 years you'd have learnt that CCP and promises don't go hand in hand.
Pix Severus
Empty You
#109 - 2014-02-05 16:13:51 UTC
If a player's main character is called "I hate Iceland" or something similar, would CCP still add that name to the monument?

MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - June 12 2017 - Vocal Local 5

MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#110 - 2014-02-05 16:14:10 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue?
How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people?

Eve is a virtual world.
What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about?
CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita.

It would have more value to more of the player base.



How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument?
How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played?
How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money?

And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec?


Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock?


I do.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Ivan Stoner
Optimistic Wasteland Inc.
Fraternity.
#111 - 2014-02-05 16:14:34 UTC
I like the idea of the Monument and i don't understand why so much ppl whine here. Because last year on Fanfest they annouced that they will build a Monument and after that it becomes very quiet about that. So no wonder that CCP reannouced that.

But two thing could be done by CCP different:
1st why doesnt show CCP several different concepts about that Monument and let the Players and Devs decide which one is the better.

2nd why has this Monunemt so less reference to Eve? I personally didn't like the right structure its looks like a Penis (ty Turrann). Why not instead the Concord Station from Yulai or a Gallente Outpost i thing Jita 4-4 Station would be also good.
Riddick Nova
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2014-02-05 16:15:13 UTC
So how does CCP know who your main char is?
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#113 - 2014-02-05 16:15:44 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock?
And I would suggest the segment of players that re-sub to get their player name immortalized will not likely be the type to hang around in the game. Whatever factors that drove them to unsub in the first place will remain.
I strongly doubt that any revenue increase in subs will outweigh the costs of this venture.


This is so true, I already get "Immortalized" in so many indie games because of crowdfunding, the underlying problems with Eve still exist.

Untill all these get resolved, using a 1 week timer to bring "good news" to us the customers is ridiculously out of context.

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#114 - 2014-02-05 16:16:29 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
If a player's main character is called "I hate Iceland" or something similar, would CCP still add that name to the monument?


CCP's position is that the character name has to conform to local Icelandic law, so no hatespeech bullshit or incitements to violence, but other than that if people want to immortalise themselves as xXxW33dL0rd420xXx then that's up to them.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#115 - 2014-02-05 16:17:58 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Dammit. Now I'm gonna have to go to Iceland Evil. Now, is there anything else to see in Iceland worth the trip so I don't have to admit to wifey that, secretly, it's all about the monument?


Nonni's, of course.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Juliette Asanari
Voodoo Children
#116 - 2014-02-05 16:20:06 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:

Warcraft? There's no Great Orc statue.



Actually...

http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm//wp-content/uploads/2012/10/orc_rider_sm.jpg

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#117 - 2014-02-05 16:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Benny Ohu
ZeeWolf Novus wrote:
I really cant see myself going all the way to Iceland just to see some slabs with my name on it. Given the number of characters active in Eve right now, that'll be some small writing.

I wonder? The monument looks about seven metres long, so the two long sides have three and a half square metres of space each. The short sides might be four metres? That's eleven square metres, one hundred and ten thousand square centimetres. An EVE player might have two accounts average, so there might be two hundred and fifty thousand players.

0.44 square centimetres per player? Straight I must be wrong about the number of actual players

e: derp. ten thousand cm^2 per square metre. not ten thousand for eleven
Pix Severus
Empty You
#118 - 2014-02-05 16:21:35 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
If a player's main character is called "I hate Iceland" or something similar, would CCP still add that name to the monument?


CCP's position is that the character name has to conform to local Icelandic law, so no hatespeech bullshit or incitements to violence, but other than that if people want to immortalise themselves as xXxW33dL0rd420xXx then that's up to them.


Thanks.

MTU Hunter: Latest Entry - June 12 2017 - Vocal Local 5

MTU Hunting 101: Comprehensive Guide

Roux Michon
#119 - 2014-02-05 16:24:41 UTC
Underwhelmed by the announcement.

Manipulated by the timer.

CCP vanity project.

Monument has no reference to either Iceland or EVE at all.

Sum it up?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#120 - 2014-02-05 16:25:21 UTC
So is it my birth/legal name from when I filled out forms on there, my name i am posting as along with all the others, or is it my account name?