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Angelica Dreamstar

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

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#741 - 2014-01-21 14:36:48 UTC

Mah Boobz wrote:

Angelica Dreamstar wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

Angelica Dreamstar wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

From dumb to dumber.
Thanks for devaluing all 4 empire navy's LP.
It's not like the people that grinded standings and missions for LP should be rewarded, naa screw that, make it so EVERY RAT IN NULL gives out navy LP!!

Edit: running numbers, that's about 15k LP per hour @ BASE, more when it upgrades. (based on 30mil ticks)
(based on 1000 isk per lp ratio, that's 15 mil extra per hour, or 16.6% of your ratting income) mileage may very.
Tell me about how you want to avoid inflation again?

LP stores are an isk sink. How does it worsen inflation, when there's no money coming into the game via LP?

Really? your that dumb?
Because there's NO item in the LP store that ONLY costs LP right?

Yeah I must be dumb, because a sink is where you put money in and none comes out.

You put money into the LP store and it turns into a module.

So... when does the LP store generate ISK out of thin air? :)

You are obviously much smarter than everybody else, so explain it to us. :)

Edith reminds you, btw: you're* :)

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

And how exactly does that contribute to inflation? When does the LP store put ISK into the economy?

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Mah Boobz

Doomheim

Likes received: 55

#742 - 2014-01-21 14:39:06 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?


Angelica Dreamstar Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,101	#743 - 2014-01-21 14:43:23 UTC 1 sighs bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source) -- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

March rabbit

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 2,198

#744 - 2014-01-21 14:44:18 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

LP is an isk sink, giving null sec ratters LP is actually a VERy good thing for the game overall, because now a good portion of that 600 to 700 bil per day sov null generates will be sunk into LP.

It does seem to suck for high sec navy mission runners however. it may even affect lvl 5 missions.

the funniest thing is: FW PvP players will get nerf. Actually FW PvP pays less than FW farming already. And when 0.0 bots and farmers will join LP farming team..... Shocked

Just an example:
- offensive plex gives 5000-25000 LP for 10-25 minutes
- 1 properly PvP fitted frigate gives 100 LP (and it actually can kill you!)
Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Jenn aSide

Soul Machines

The Initiative.

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#745 - 2014-01-21 14:44:34 UTC

Mah Boobz wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?

What has that got to do with isk creation? Those skill books you get for just LP get sold to people who have isk that already exists.

We're talking about isk faucets and sinks, I don't know wtf you are talking about lol.

Angelica Dreamstar

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 1,101

#746 - 2014-01-21 14:44:55 UTC

Mah Boobz wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?

You're selling it to a player, which means the process doesn't generate ISK. The money only moves and doesn't suddenly appear in the economy.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Jenn aSide

Soul Machines

The Initiative.

Likes received: 16,192

#747 - 2014-01-21 14:45:21 UTC

March rabbit wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

the funniest thing is: FW PvP players will get nerf. Actually FW PvP pays less than FW farming already. And when 0.0 bots and farmers will join LP farming team..... Shocked

Just an example:
- offensive plex gives 5000-25000 LP for 10-25 minutes
- 1 properly PvP fitted frigate gives 100 LP (and it actually can kill you!)
Lol

What?

embrel

BamBam Inc.

Likes received: 292

#748 - 2014-01-21 14:45:52 UTC

Mah Boobz wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?

There's no new ISK flowing into the game. The ISK already in the game is just redistributed.

Mah Boobz

Doomheim

Likes received: 55

#749 - 2014-01-21 14:45:59 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?

What has that got to do with isk creation? Those skill books you get for just LP get sold to people who have isk that already exists.

We're talking about isk faucets and sinks, I don't know wtf you are talking about lol.

you realize, isk faucets and sinks are completely different from inflation right?

Angelica Dreamstar

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 1,101

#750 - 2014-01-21 14:46:11 UTC | Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?

She lacks full understanding of how the process works. For me it looks like she's mostly running on instincts without engaging deeper analysis. I guess it's no use to suggest ignoring her...

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Mah Boobz

Doomheim

Likes received: 55

#751 - 2014-01-21 14:46:51 UTC

embrel wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Mah Boobz wrote:

When you buy stuff with LP, that doesn't require isk (skill books, starbase charters)

Those items are (to the game) "isk neutral". They don't sink or create isk. They do serve to sread isk out by adding more items to the game.

Don't embarrass yourself further.

"isk neutral" so they have no isk value?
So I can't go sell skillbooks I got from LP out of thin air?

There's no new ISK flowing into the game. The ISK already in the game is just redistributed.

Thanks Obama :)

MeBiatch

GRR GOONS

Likes received: 2,108

#752 - 2014-01-21 14:47:47 UTC

CCP SoniClover wrote:

I'm cross posting here a post from the dev blog discussion thread:

Here's a quick update on the changes we've made to the ESS, based on testing and feedback. There is a dev blog coming out tomorrow detailing these (and other changes) to the deployables in 1.1, but here's a basic overview.

Additions/edit
* With an active ESS in system, bounties pay out LP in addition to normal ISK reward. LP reward starts at 0.15 LP per 1000 ISK and can increase to 0.2 LP per 1000 ISK as the bonus payout increases. As an example, a bounty worth 1 million ISK (total) gives between 150 and 200 LPs, based on payout level. This is to address the risk vs. reward concerns. Thanks to those that suggested using LPs instead of ISK for balance.
* There is now no timer to open the ESS window where the player gets to choose to Share or Take all, but both options now have separate timers on them. Share has 20 seconds, Take all has 180 seconds. Moving out of range while the timer is ongoing resets the timer. This is to reduce the feasibility of having an alt sit at the ESS and quickly empty the pool when someone shows up.
* Interacting with the ESS now puts a warp disruption effect on the ship interacting with it. Ships immune to bubbles are not immune to this effect. This is to reduce the feasibility of using ships immune to bubbles for stealing purposes.

Also, some of the stats have changed:
* Price lowered from 30 million to 25 million
* Hit points increased from 150k to 250k
* Volume increased from 150 to 200
* Increased minimum range from stargates/stations to 3000 km, from 300.
* Activation time increased to 120 seconds, up from 60 seconds

Some of these changes are already out on Sisi, the rest should be there soon. Thank you all for your feedback.

looking much much better.

points for improvement would be having to hack the ESS to steal from it which is based on standings. you guys did spend alot of time on the new hacking mini game and i feel it would fit perfectly with the combat/exploration ideas that came with the summer expansion

you did not mention but is the 5% reduction of isk payout set in stone?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.


embrel BamBam Inc. Likes received: 292	#753 - 2014-01-21 14:47:49 UTC 2 Mah Boobz wrote: you realize, isk faucets and sinks are completely different from inflation right? no, they're not. Inflation is all about faucets & sinks. Fed = faucet and somehow - most of the times, just not now - the more the Fed-faucet is open, the higher the inflation will be.


Jenn aSide Soul Machines The Initiative. Likes received: 16,192	#754 - 2014-01-21 14:47:51 UTC 2 Angelica Dreamstar wrote: And how exactly does that contribute to inflation? When does the LP store put ISK into the economy? Apparently , Big Boobs dampen the ability to understand economics. they sure dampen my abilty to understand most things.


Mah Boobz Doomheim Likes received: 55	#755 - 2014-01-21 14:48:43 UTC embrel wrote: Mah Boobz wrote: you realize, isk faucets and sinks are completely different from inflation right? no, they're not. Inflation is all about faucets & sinks. Fed = faucet and somehow - most of the times, just not now - the more the Fed-faucet is open, the higher the inflation will be. /facepalm

Angelica Dreamstar

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 1,101

#756 - 2014-01-21 14:49:51 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

Angelica Dreamstar wrote:

And how exactly does that contribute to inflation? When does the LP store put ISK into the economy?

Apparently , Big Boobs dampen the ability to understand economics. they sure dampen my abilty to understand most things.

Well my boobees certainly help me, economically speaking. Do you like them? ;)

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE


Mah Boobz Doomheim Likes received: 55	#757 - 2014-01-21 14:50:11 UTC Inflation


Angelica Dreamstar Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,101	#758 - 2014-01-21 14:50:49 UTC 1 Guys, stop feeding the derailing troll. She sounds like Ziona. bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source) -- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE


Mah Boobz Doomheim Likes received: 55	#759 - 2014-01-21 14:51:46 UTC Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Guys, stop feeding the derailing troll. She sounds like Ziona. Proved wrong, so now let the personal attacks begin!

Jenn aSide

Soul Machines

The Initiative.

Likes received: 16,192

#760 - 2014-01-21 14:51:55 UTC

Angelica Dreamstar wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Angelica Dreamstar wrote:

And how exactly does that contribute to inflation? When does the LP store put ISK into the economy?

Apparently , Big Boobs dampen the ability to understand economics. they sure dampen my abilty to understand most things.

Well my boobees certainly help me, economically speaking. Do you like them? ;)

I couldn't hear nothin over the sound of your boobs clashing.

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