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because it comes with a handy dandy 5% nerf for anyone not using it.

It's a good thing we're intelligent enough to see through your blatant misrepresentations.

You are not a soloer. You are a 10 man gang, with one dude stealing all the loot, then bragging how much money he makes on fleet ops.

Care to tell us more how an entire null region can only support 7 players (allegedly) above high sec income level? In particular, please elaborate what happens when the word gets out and 600 players adopt your play style. Effectively perma camping all of null and exhausting all these resources.

Then remind us again how many players were able to effectively farm in Osmon before TIDI set in, prior to the addition of more L4 sisters agents. Do note their optimized income level while at it.

You still don't get it.

The slot machine you are playing is not the loot drop. It's tab into window, probe system. Unless there is a site worth running, there is no payout. You consistently fail to account for this time spent in your income per time unit calculations. You only count the time spent active inside the combat site.

When you spend 5 minutes using 10 accounts to probe 10 systems, that's 50 minutes spent. Another 30-60 minutes to run the site. This alone puts you at 100mil / 80 to 110 minutes = 54 to 75 mil / h. This further fails to take into account the fact an actual solo player living in null would need to travel a minimum of 10 jumps adding travel time, plus more travel time to reship and again return to base. When you get nothing but bounty and OE drop, it means you made less money than you would have ratting in your home system.

You further fail to account for what happens when you scan 10 systems and find nothing in your bottom line calculation.

For an on-topic question: how do you feel about this feature nerfing all your bounties by 5%? You seem to rely on them propping up your bottom end of the loot RNG. Or do you plan to deploy an ESS in every system you run a site in?

You still do not get that sanctums cannot support more than 100 people per region. We have tens of thousands of people, it is impossible for sanctums to support the null population. Anoms are the staple diet for the rank and file but you earn more running missions in high sec.

I include everyone in null, not just goons.

There are simply not enough sanctums to support large populations. Anoms are what we have instead of missions.

NPC Kills in CFC Space 24 Hours

This shot is a shot of NPC kills in the last 24 hours. I just took the shot so its current. I think you can clearly see that the majority of systems have minimal npc kills. Quite a few have zero npc kills. I propose it clearly shows that there is not the level of competition for anoms and combat sigs that you are suggesting.

Now you are probably itching to reply that that's because those systems are terribad for npc'ing. However please refer to the following screenshot.

Best Ratting / Sig locations I have found

You will notice that there is an area of Pure Blind that is lit up significantly more than anywhere else. Its an area between UI-8ZE and F-NMX6. This area is by far the most lucrative area I have found to rat / run anoms and sigs and I have personally pulled out billions of isk. In many cases I have found successive high end sigs untouched and managed to run them all over several hours with no interference.

Your suggestion that simply because they're not high negative sec space means they're not lucrative or there is immense competition for them is nonsense. There is almost no competition outside your safe hub systems.

How can you say that when clearly I have shown empty systems or systems that barely are touched in a 24 hour period while other areas, such as north of Pure Blind, around VFK, you have huge numbers of NPC kills. There are systems available but your coalition is not using them... isn't that then a self imposed limitation, rather than a game mechanic limitation. Take the little triangle when I have placed my mouse curser to show 77 kills in 24 hours. Those two dead end systems frequently have up to 10 sigs, both data, relic and 6 - 10/10's. That pipe is full of sigs almost constantly untapped. One of the outposts there is called "2 empty for toons taste"...

On the one hand you're saying not enough sigs and on the other you're saying, "where is everyone?"

So rather than Goons exploiting the billions available they're in high sec running less profitable incursions? :)

I can say it because there is a fixed amount of sanctums per region and that there are only enough for just under 100 people max per region.

If that's the case are you saying that the area from VFK - Branch - the bottom of Pure Blind has less than 100 people in total? Because its obvious theres a crap load of anoms and sigs not being run in that area.