EVE General Discussion

Nah you have a bonus to fun. Unfortunate you can't see that. The goons of old were more interested in fun than isk / per / hour and whining about it....

Welll... I didn't want to rat in nullsec anyway.

Irrelevant.* Sad to see you haven't improved one bit.

So you being wrong is irrelevant and you still think the whole POS argument is valid?

You obviously have no idea how these things work, or else you wouldn't be suggesting having them near a POS and having an alt periodically removing stuff.

But please, never stop posting.

Its because its bad, they can do what they intend by allowing sov null to have their own LP stores. As a highsec person I don't expect you to be able to understand the nuances of these things.

They must not have the numbers to support your assumption.

And they just don't get that.

CCP is repeating the Systems upgrade nerf mistake again. For those of you not familiar, here goes:

When systems upgrades were 1st introduced, you could upgrade ANY system to be like any other. So truesec didn't matter, even the crappiest system could have 2 sanctums, 2 havens, 3 forsake hubs etc. CCP believed that this was not optimal and thought that if some space was better than other space, people would fight over it. They weren't aware of the plain fact that NO ONE fights over ratting space (because unlike with moons that oly appear in nill and low sec, grunt members can "isk up" anywhere incuding high sec, why fight over ratting grounds when you can just run high sec missions, incursions or null npc space missions?).

End result of the systems upgrades nerf that was supposed to "drive conflict"? Large swaths of null turned BACK into the deserts they were before the system's upgrades scheme was introduced.

Not only did it have the opposite effect of what was intended, it cost CCP real money (in the form of man-hours lost) when they had to go back and semi-fix it with the EHP/Hr buff to anomalies...the buff that BTW created the 400 mil an hour Titan tracking linked by a scimitar fiasco (becuase it puffed up the frigless forsaken hubs a lot, previoulsy forsaken hubs were very minor anoms almost no one messed with) that only got solved by nerfing titans....

CCP seems to be doing this again. hopefully smarter heads will prevail.

The tears in this thread are delicious. I think the ESS should cut the bounties by 20% per default and at most raise them to 100.2% The more care bears leave 0.0 or the game the less need is to invest into resources for addressing TIDI. win win.

Seems like were spending a lot of time talking about a PVE nerf in a PVP game.

I had a bizarre, possibly tin-foil hat thought this morning during my morning commute. In other, fantasy MMOs, you have 4 basic archetypes of character.

Warriors - Heavily armed, heavily armored combat oriented.
Healers - Improving the HP of other characters usually the Warriors. Also buffing. (Logi/Command Ship)
Rogues - Adding stealth, sabotage, and subterfuge often doing ridiculous damage.
Mages - Generally geared towards doing nothing but ridiculous damage or debuffing (Maybe EWAR)

Is it possible, albeit unlikely, that the purpose of things like this is to create those last two archetypes?

With all the siphoning and stealing maybe CCP is looking to add a more roguish element or playstyle to the game. Not though player interactions like scamming but through the actual mechanics?

Anyway, as I said, something I was just pondering on my way to work.

We already have those things.

All this is doing is nerfing an already bad area of space and driving more people into high sec which means less PvP. There is nothing good in this idea.