Crime & Punishment

Somethign is wrong.. a Thread in crime an punishment were people are not attacking each others and calling names.

Damm I think we are too disciplined :/

And how you, respectful and stemmed peer, suggests that we solve this dreadful issue?

Truth.
Blapped a barge last night, cost me about ~11 M ISK, cost my victim about ~32 M ISK. Minor loss, for either of us.

High Sec is actually more dangerous than low or null - in my opinion, it is easier for a more experienced player to use murky/unknown game mechanics to lure unsuspecting players into an engagement. You can get ganked anywhere you go... htfu?

I think there's a perception problem - you're much more likely to be blpped in Lo or Nul on a per population basis, but the population of Hi is *so* much greater than either Lo or Nul that the absolute numbers of ganks are much higher there.

I find that I don't flinch much in Hi, because the average 'heat' is lower, even though the 'thermal mass' is higher.

^^^
This.
Seriously.

Winning is thwarting your foe - If your foe's intent is to blap your barge, then by surviving, you have won an unequivocal victory. Now, if your opponent is after something else, like maybe interdicting a particular kind of mineral, or to clear a belt for the exclusive use of their own fleet, then you have to decide if you want to 'win' that fight, or if it's OK to merely move and meet your own needs elsewhere.


Now, recently, I've seen a resurgence of some particularly nasty forms of self-entitled whinging by the worst of carebears, and that annoys me mightily. Unto the point of deciding that I was going to return to actively hunting barges - It's a form of tough love, you see. I blap, then educate. Having blown their barge to plasma, I find I generally have their attention. MUCH better than listening to the whining. But, when I go hunting, explicitly looking for idiots to edumacate, I find that there are some targets I can't nail - they have already learned their lessons, from whatever source. And some targets I *could* nail, but are aware, and using their situational-awareness tank, vacate the premisis before I can smoke their hulls.

Both those above categories of miner constitute 'winners.' On the other hand, the bonehead who sits motionless whilst I motor on up, lock, and then annihilate? Losers. Theydeserve their loss. If they'll listen to me afterwards, they may become winners. But most won't listen. So they wind up being prey.

I haven't looked at a heatmap of ships and pods lost recently, but IIRC, last time I did, it was fairly uniform across central New Eden, with a few hotspots in the Faction Warfare hubs.

The joke, to me... is the very first post where the OP states that the barges are too weak and ergo unbalanced.

Its an INDUSTRIAL SHIP! Damn right its not going to match the combat capabilities of a destroyer! Or, if you want the buffed out version? Use a SKIFF? The damn things have battleship-like EHP. Even a procurer is tough to take down. (My alt has killed would-be gankers with his procurer w/o concord assistance)

I feel your point Psycho. The whining is getting worse.

Excellent. Carry on the good fight!

Sadly, I know exactly of what you speak. Indeed, that's one of my main reasons for opposing conscription. Imposing and *maintaining* discipline and leadership in a conscription force is HARD. Doing so with a force that's largely in peace-time conditions is even harder.

The Soviet system works well with illiterate peasants and campesinos who can be bullied about and aren't expected to know or do much. If you need a technologically-advanced force, it becomes VERY HARD to manage. And bloody expensive, too - Send the conscripts to school, then just about the time they become useful, their time is done, and they leave. To be replaced by another uneducated kid which needs to be sent through the schools pipeline.

Too many folks see military service as a means of correcting everything that parents and primary education screwed-up. Can't work - *doesn't* work. At best, you might take a few rough edges off, but in place you build up resentment against society, and produce a force that really *is* composed of largely of misfits and rejects. Not a recipe for success in the modern age.