Crime & Punishment

You already acted a fool with this exact same thread and got it locked.
(( Nice copy paste job ))

Your tears fuel me.

I'm expecting this thread to be locked soon as well.

Your trolling sucks.

You are bad at this game. There I said it. Now that the elephant is out of the room, let's dissect this... most of his/their kills are of blinged out mission runners. Don't bling out your mission running boats. ...and that about covers it.



You should put forth some effort to understand your "foe," in this case the suicide ganker, before posting like you know what you're talking about. I'm too lazy to type it all out again, so I'm going to give a link to something I already said about this.

Ganking and stuff.

Seriously contemplating a career change. xD

In games other than EVE, using "the best gear" makes you more efficient at everything you do.

In EVE, using "the best gear" - deadspace and officer modules - makes you into a loot pinyata that everyone wants to crack open.

Simple recipe to not get ganked: If you must mission, use a faction or cheap deadspace local repair module (cheaper than your hull), a cheap faction or deadspace microwarp drive, and everything else should be ten million per module or less. More effective that posting a thread like this that basically says "Free loot, shoot me!"


And if you must mine, buy a permit.

This post made me change my mind about ever having kids! <3 <3 <3

The important compromise is that players should be taught, CLEARLY and repeatedly that this might happen, so their own ship being suicide ganked is not the first lesson on the subject.

When most players KNOW what to expect the frustration is smaller.

But I do still think destroyers have too much DPS :P

If you haven't already done so I suggest downloading and using Eve Fitting Tool (EFT) to theorycraft fits and using Eve Uni's primers on tanking, which are somewhat better than the official Wiki in my opinion.

Done right an Orca should be packing somewhere in the region of 250,000 and upwards effective hitpoints (EHP), as opposed to the zero tank Orca you lost to a Hurricane and a Brutix. If I use an Orca, it's generally fitted as per this picture, it's not invincible but it's considerably harder to kill than one fitted the way yours was.

Most of an Orcas EHP is in structure, using Expanded Cargo modules eats into it. On the other hand fitting a Reinforced Bulkhead II increases it by around 25%, fitting a Damage Control II increases it by 60%, due to the 60% omni resist boost to structure when active (it also boosts shield resists by 12.5% and armour resists by 15%).

Your first mistake was siccing your drones onto them, the moment you did that you lost the fight. What you should have done was to recall your drones and try to recover the Mobile Tractor Unit(MTU) before it exploded. They shot your MTU to try and bait you into a fight that you couldn't win, they succeeded. Note that shooting an MTU gives the aggressor a suspect flag, as such anybody can engage them, and Concord will not interfere.

Just because you can shoot at someone doesn't make it a good idea to do so.

As for web immunity, a corp-mate (not applicable to NPC corps) in a ship fitted with a web or three can use the webs to speed up the transition into warp. You enter warp at 75% of maximum velocity, a single web used on your ship reduces that maximum velocity by 50-60%, ergo you get into warp faster.

Losing ships is an intended part of life in Eve, losing one to other players is less embarrassing than losing one to NPCs, which I did last week . If you can't deal with that aspect of the game, you're playing the wrong game.

They are doing that mostly inside mission? not at gate?

If in misison your suggestion doe not help. Bastion mode.. the mission runner cannot leave...

High security space....

I think that everyone needs to understand the facts here. Hisec isnt meant to be a "safe" area. The different security areas of EvE provide the vehicle to allow for different mechanics. Each sec zone has its own list of do's/donts and various tactics therefore apply to each. The game is not broken, and it is not intended to simply allow someone to shoot rocks or red crosses with impunity. The game is centered around conflict.... and trust me, if CCP was to change things to buff non-pvp anymore, the implications to the entire game would be a disaster.


Economically, nobody would buy ships because they wouldnt ever need to replace theirs. That means nobody would build ships because it would not be profitable. The ships that DID warrant manufacturing would be astronomically expensive. Remember that the entire economy is player driven, and ships are not seeded into the market by CCP.

Content wise, you would see a fall off of pirates. Many of the content-providers who have replied to this threadnaught would most likely stop playing the game. (You dont see them asking for mission running nerfs... let them have THEIR profession.) While some may think this would be a good thing, but they provide more than you would think. The content provider is a required part of the EvE community.

Most of us play this game over others because of the risk factor involved. Yeah, I know the argument is that you cant inflict your revenge on a ganker. Your right. You cant, and thats life. Make yourself an undesirable target. Fly with a fleet. The game is not meant to be played solo. While a mission running battleship may be an easy target for a group of catalysts, a mission running battleship with an escort of its own dessies or AF's with ECM is decidedly NOT. Youll have to split the money, of course, but being greedy has its price.

TL/DR: EvE hurts. Play or leave.

Is so cheap to use destroyers for suicide ganking that they kill even cheap battleships:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21510881