Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bottom line is: nope, it's public information.

omg

Grow up

Your a dev, act like one

Grow up?

I'm 29 years old, and 5'6" tall... I don't think there's much hope for me.


On a more serious note, the site is built by a third party, using information that comes from the API through other third parties.

There's nothing wrong with the service at all, or the intelligence it provides to people who declare war.

If you don't want to get your stuff blown up, either learn to fight back, or hire someone to defend your corporation.

It really is that simple.

For some damn reason this thread was the first thing my grumpy sober butt read on the internet this morning. So enjoy our wardec i"ll graciously pay for once I get home tonight.

And please, please feel free to use Eve Who to look up and find all the members of my crop. None of them are scared of you knowing who they are, and they all are perfectly fine with you using it as an intelligence tool. You could probably find a lot of info on us from it. Good luck, and looking forward to the fun, hopefully this war will not "destroy high sec" if we use Eve Who.

I didn't vote for mynnna last time, but with that she's won me over.

I am a little curious about the methods - no cache scraping aside I find that several of my alts, none of which have ever seen combat, some of whom have never chatted in any public channel ever, and sit in the same station all day long, appear on the list.

Put an alt in every starter system, and you'll know every new character created. Simple as that. All that is left is to update data once in a while.

Agreed I would vote again even if he is a grrr goon

I want to try to derail the OP to suit my own curiosity. Can CCP Falcon edit the OP to link to my post?

So how do people feel about the convenience these tools give us? A lot of times I hear that EVE shouldn't 'hold our hands' etc. when people talk about features that would make things easier. These third party tools make things really easy. Do they hold our hand? If so, is that okay? If you don't think it's okay, what should be done about it, if anything?

As an example, let's look at the market. In game, you can only view the market data of the region you're in. It's trivially easy to use your two empty character slots to roll an alt and leave it in two other regions where you do business most. It's even easier to get on eve-central or other market sites and view market data for all of New Eden. In this example, what would you think of simply making all market data viewable in game? Is that hand-holding/dumbing-down-EVE? Is so, is it also hand-holding when we use a 3rd party tool to easily do what could be done in game?

(When I very first started EVE, I had (and currently have) no alts to park in a trade hub, so I used to ask for price checks on items, especially in Jita and Amarr. Then I found eve-central and have never interacted with another player ever again to ask about the price of anything.)

I use quite a few of these tools and appreciate them. If I could accomplish the same thing as well or better by in game means that these 3rd party tools let me do that would be alright, too. If the ability to use them was taken away, I'd change and adapt. I imagine that adaptation would involve a lot more interaction with other players. That's my stance. What are your thoughts?