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then they'd have to admit they don't give a **** and they lied to us about actually wanting feedback, and that the surveys were never going to happen and were also a lie and they'd just end up branding themselves as untrustworthy rather than ignorant.

Fixed that for you...

Funny enough you should reference Chribba. However, you are indeed wrong in that reference. As such you are trying to compare earning the trust of a swindler compared to a humanitarian. Chribba earned his trust by keeping his word and not scamming. He has done nothing thus far to make the eve community question his trustworthiness and combine that with all the sites and tools he has developed at no cost to the player, his dedication to improving the community is evident. Now let us look at SOMER on the other hand who has been notorious for scamming many people. Their mantra is to make money and while that is the risk of the player they are still nothing but a common gambling operation intent on robbing you of isk.

Just because they move your ships for you and get it there without issue you think this warrants the same level of trust that others like Chribba has cultivated? I dare say you must be mad. As far as rare items are concerned I am certain that any items Chribba posses that are rare were obtained by playing the game and not given to for running a gambling house.
Even rare special edition ships in game like the Cambion for example were given as prizes for participating in in game events. Others like the gnosis were given freely without doing anything but were given by CCP to the players. This notion of giving a third party free limited quantity items and then in turn allowing those items to be sold at insane prices to other players is ludicrous.

If they want to give somer special items for the EVE Vegas hosting as a thank you fine I have no issue so long as they are reskinned and not better in stats. If they wish to give them better stat items well at least make the items locked to that account so they cant be traded or sold. There is no reason anyone should be given superior items in game free that could get them billions of isk.

people with brains didn`t give a flying f%ck about the scorp paintjob, it was about the market value that they had. and the fact it wasn`t disclosed.
Also the people in the know didn`t give a f%ck about the gambling concept... it was the fact that Somer was stretching the eula to make a real life income.
TLDR ... way to dumb post

I've unsubbed all 5 accounts due to things like this.

I stated in my unsub, "I am doing this due to greed (things like auto-renewal automatically occuring), and favoritism (The Mittani, SOMER, etc.)"

Let them know how you feel with your wallet. There's no other way. I'd rather grind endless hours in the game, knowing if all of this did it, we''d make a difference.

Dear CCP,

I am deeply concerned.

It seems that you are starting to depend more on PLEX / GTC sales, than on maintaining / increasing subscriptions, so as to maintain your profibility.

As such, I ask you :-

- Will CCP continue to focus on developing / maintaining Eve into the future, or will you just create new "shinnies", ( and give them to third party entities ), so as to maintain the lottery enterprises that exist, that help spur on the PLEX /GTC sales, ( possibly in a manner that actually violates your own TOS / EULA ) ?

- Do you really want to turn Eve, from a game to a Casino ?

- CCP, are you giving up on Eve, the game ?

Come on CCP, a clear transparent clarification on this Somer debarcle, and its many issues, would be nice and much appreciated.

Please CCP, stop ignoring this important thread and the issues that have been mentioned.

To be fair there have been a number of people who bought somer credit when the possible prize was guardian vexors. Somer were saying "give isk, and you have a chance for a guardian vexor". Then CCP changed the reward to something else - at least one user tried to then get the isk back from somer. He had paid for a chance at a guardian vexor, not at the other thing, so he wanted his isk back. They refused. He contacted CCP, since it was their doing, and they basically said that even though they were involved, tough luck.

It's the ol' bait and switch. A scam. A bit odd since CCP themselves were involved, but a scam none the less.

And lets not forget the even more numerous people who've put money in, and then somer have turned round and banned them for nebulous reasons from taking part in the lottery draws.

Somer is a scam and an RMT operation.

"Auto-renewal" happens in every game. In fact, it says when you go to add game time via credit card that it is going to happen, and it says that with World of Warcraft, Rift, Star Wars, etc. Don't act like it's only EvE Online and it's greed making them do it. That's just childish.

I find most of the complaints are based on WHO received the gift. This frankly is sad.


You can say "It's not right right to reward a gambling site" But the same could be argued about any "Community" group. It could be said that organizations like the folks who run the New Eden Open shouldn't get any special treatment cause at any point they could just take the prizes for them selves. The truth is that's true about any one. The other thing that's true is that people who got rewarded "BIG Lottery 10th anniversary event, Alliance Tournament player commentators, Alliance Tournament volunteers, the staff of the Syndicate Competitive League (SCL)" Didn't get any sort of grief from the community.
" Sometimes it has to do with the timing of specific events related to that fansite or enterprise, sometimes your favorite is next in line or they’ve simply gotten something different, such as free accounts, trips and/or tickets to Fanfest, Collector’s editions, a couple of time codes, devs flown to their events, T-shirts, posters, resin ship models etc. etc."

So this is just a GREAT example of how selfishness combined with the loudest complaint/biggest riot can ruin a good thing.

detailed and open?

they have said **** all of substance even when asked directly, several times. then ignored the thread for nearly two months.

i'm going to assume english isn't your first language.

edit: also the outright lies about "surveys" that have yet to be produced and i doubt ever will be...