EVE General Discussion

When I was in FW, they complained when you farmed.

Then, when there was not much farming being done, they complained about system control.

Eventually you learn to just ignore certain people.

Jesus Christ, I'm willing to bet my hair I'm not the only one who's thought of this, but I might be the only one to put this out for you.
I know you want to make an interesting character, something refreshing and new, but those cryptic phrases and Latin you push across the board just comes out as pseudo-intellectual, wannabe pretentious, stupid, annoying ****. I don't think anyone will be bothered to seek translations or take you even remotely seriously. I just care about your time and effort.

As for the topic; timer rollbacks sound the best.

Damn, Harry Potter, i blame you for this. People started using Latin to precisely convey meaning after the use of French fell out of favour. Then English got so formalized nobody used either, then English was so dumbed-down that speakers lost the mental acuity provided by complex concepts such as predication. Ask people, 95% won't know what that means and it's not important to daily life. Latin terms resurfaced after the Potter books hit the screens.
Indeed.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that cannot be farmed for both isk and tears. Remember the lowsec needs love threads, know you brung this on yo'selves.

The only income that CCP should ever look at is isk faucets, and there's only two of those ingame, mission reward isk and rat bounties.

Everything else is traded on the open market with isk from those two activities. Everything else has value based on what the market says is the item's rarity and difficulty to aquire, not what the players mouth off on the forum about it.

People are making a killing with frigates in FW because despite all the whining about it being way too easy, when it comes down to it highsec bears would rather pay a load of money for a navy cruiser or battlecruiser than fly a disposable frigate to lowsec, no matter how little the danger.
That's it. There's nothing for CCP to fix here.

Regular FW PvPers are happy to have the income as well, FW is the only truely self-sufficient solo PvP life-style their is. The stabbed farmers will not affect their income because the armed FW guy will always chase off an unarmed one and claim the plex.
It's good to be able to keep yourself in decent ships without having to farm PvE all the time.

Only washed out l33t PvP bros from null and 2003 trillionares get mad whenever some stabbed unarmed frigate runs away. Everyone else in FW is like whatever man where's the enemy fleet at.

Lol, why do belligerent undesirables always get so mad when they are bested by people who work smarter not harder?

I'd like an empty low sec too, but that's because I like to explore without using probes and rat at belts, but I fully accept that other people have the right to deny me my spoils, how are you any different to a miner or a hauler complaining about gankers?

She has a point, though.

Miner complains: "This is not fair! This is ruining my game! Low SP characters in cheap, disposable ships can just come and ruin my play with no consequence to themselves!"

FWer complains: "This is not fair! This is ruining my game! Low SP characters in cheap, disposable ships can just come and ruin my play with no consequence to themselves!"

I mean, you and I flew in FW together for a long while. You know that I know how frustrating it can be when a target gets away... but there's really no solution to it. People will still be able to warp out of a plex when you're on DScan. Making them have to jump through extra hurdles to cap a plex, reducing payouts, making "no cloak zones", making the rats harder... it will not give you more kills, because people can still simply warp out when there's someone on scan.

Also it's nice to know that if I'm really busy IRL and need to get some quick ISK to PvP with, I can run a few plexes.

Ive read every post, and understand but eve is a sand box meaning that there are no exclusive activities in eve. Everyone is free to do as they please even if that gets in your way and causes you to lose a mission, lose a ship, not get any lp or lose your cargo to gankers. Yes its unfair that a neut can rob you of lp but the defence of 'it's not fair' has never applied to eve. Neuts can enter war zones and neuts can get in your way, if they do make them pay so badly they don't come back. Eve is all about pvp not completing plexes for lp. The plex is just a conflict driver, nothing more. Who turns up is the source of the conflict, whether they are enemies ir neuts, it's irrelevant.

Sorry if my English isn't very good but it's not my first language and I'm getting tired which might affect my prose.

Why is that a response? Here's an area of the game that's supposed to brew conflict and actual warfare. That's the explicit stated intent. Instead players are using it to farm massive amounts of isk and people are actually driven away from the warfare aspect because too many of them just want to carebear.

Looking at 1 FW corp's killboard (this is just 1):

611,867,213,193 ISK killed.

267,666,828,798 ISK lost.

For a rough total of around 900 billion.

You think that **** just grows on trees?