Out of Pod Experience

i wouldent say hysteria, considering the tiny numbers on forums, mayority are content on the direction of the game, goons seems not to, so their btiching and moaning and trying their regular forum war, and lol what can i say, devs isent amused, mods is ewen less amused, but i dont really care, kinda fun you guys are there in numbers, more money = more game !

By far my favourite Star Citizen moment was when they posted a picture of a question mark in the store because they hadn't bothered to design the ship yet and it still sold out.

Personally, I think that 20% of the supporters will be disppointed one way or another, no matter what is done.

Anyway, I wonder, what's in it to you? You're a CSM of EVE, why you bother yourself with SC? I can think of a few reason why *i* would worry if I was in your place (the Hallelujah Plan being a big number 1 in the list), but, what drives you to insist that SC will be a real game and not what hype state about it? Such big news!

Of course it will not live to the hype, nobody does. Imagination is free and reality is limited. I feel inclined to give Chris Roberts a degree of skill and expertise above average, and also he can't claim to not have enough funding -heh-, but all in all he is chasing his dream, which will not be what everyone else dreamed.

So, take for granted, a lot of people will be angry, no matter what happens. Stuff will get delayed, or will not work as intended, or will be exploited into uselesness, or may even be cut down for all release plans.

But at least, and until we reach the end of the road, it offers hope, something EVE no longer does.

As a matter of fact, i am interested in more things than WiS. Actually, my last suggestion to expand the game had nothing to do with WiS and was based purely on space content.

My main gripe with EVE is that, 5 years later, the list of things I like hasn't grown at all. PvE still is a disastrous dead end, mining too, and everything else either didn't grabbed my attention, or is a utter waste of time, or implies exploding player ships.

So go figure, I suggested dynamic, player generated PvE content with a PvP foundation inspired in the way collectible card games work. NPC agents would be the cards, and their powers and effects would be a mix of NPC effects and complete-or-miss PvE.

Then we got a three years plan to add more space so the nullsec uberalliances can play their games.

Everything a soloer highsec casual PvEr (and Barbie lover ) could dream of.



Lack of alternatives, shortage of good sense, crazy stubborness, entertainment value and practicing English. And most of the time, stop doing it would be worst than keep doing it.

Please do. Please save a PLEX so we can gloat at you for a game that never will live up to the hype and expectations of everyone that pledged to it. Please save a PLEX so we can gloat at anyone that called Star Citizen the "EVE killer".

Please save a PLEX so you can check out the latest additions to EVE as we will have had the summer and winter expansions by this time next year.

'Hallelujah' plan is likely to provide solo content - more space, and likely conditions for solo and gang players to use. What it will not provide, and what it seems to get criticized for is lack of rollercoasters for carebears that don't accept the fact they exist in universe with other players.

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There is no such thing as a "Casual hisec solo PvE player". Not even Chribba, the most respected solo 'carebear' is immune to pvp. You can be ganked, you can be scammed, the "Launch" button should carry a disclaimer: "By logging in you agree to PvP".

About PvE in general - in MMOs you need to realize players will likely have to repeat this piece of content over and over again. No matter how you 'vary things up' - sooner or later someone will make a wiki article on 'how to farm it efficiently'. Of course ratting in EVE is dreadful, but then again - EVE isn't about ratting...

Hm, so trusting your FC to lead you to many a kills and possibly not welp you without a good damn brawl before is hiding in a blue blob and avoiding PvP. (Mind you, going by the definition of "Blob": Blob is any force that just killed you, and had at least more internet spaceship than you did. Not to be confused with "Because ECM!", which states that it still killed you but at lesser numbers and a Falcon was present within the region.) It's good to know that people who fight in fleets don't PvP, I mean... could've fooled me, I swear I saw a lot of those blob folk go out and have a scrap on their own.

As for uberalliances... those people aren't NPCs. A gate won't just spawn, there will be plenty of opportunity to pvp around that I bet. Plus, who says you won't be able to sneak through later?

It's usually easy to make fun of you. But the highlighted part invokes nothing but a kind of sadness, Because your risk of disappointment is really high and the pettiness (of the very idea that you just stick around to say i told you so to people you don't like in a game you don't care for ) is staggering. If SC gets rid of people like you (the really depressing 'don't really like EVE or it's community; types), it will be a honest to God win for all involved.

It would have been more helpful for all involved (starting with you) if you were a more introspective type and realized from the get go that EVE is ok and just not your cup of tea.

/tiphat for the Stanford Experiment Analogy.

Regardless of the extremely pretty amusing thread (reading Malcanis or Tippia´s replies to posts actually is pretty entertaining) I am one of those that actually enjoy (been saying it over and over since 2005) this "Social Experiment" gone awry.

Will SC deliver? Who knows? I backed (proud backer tag! yay!) And will play. I have backed a lot of dollah$$$ on Kickstarter and so far all of the games there have delivered (Shadowrun, Magi, FTL and the awesome boardgames from LEGENDARY developers like OGRE and CHTULHU WARS) so I don´t understand the overhype OR the overHATE, no real middle ground so far in this thread except for a few quiet voices.

I am also patiently waiting on Torment, Wasteland 2 and Infinity hur hur hur.

But yeah, my only input on this debatable thread of merits and "what nots" and "what ifs" mixed with some honest CCP bashing (they deserve it) is this.

Consequences.

I enjoy the raw dark sewage of filth and corruption rivaling Mos Eisley that EVE is.

I believe if they manage to emulate or perhaps improve that paradigm the game will seriously (if it ever comes out) be a dent on EVE , and this is regardless of it being a success or not, since I like to be more thorough.

SC might be an even greater hit than EVE in terms of income, without making a dent on its userbase.

This leads me again to my original line of thinking, that even CCP doesn´t understand the monster they created, they just try to feed it and see if it digests the meals.

EVE by itself is worthy of study in several fields that relate to human behavior. It´s a nation of sorts, a gathering of tribes an endless spinning wheel of chance.

But I have always believed the core spirit of the game has been always out of reach of its creators.

Like Frankenstein´s Monster, it has a will of its own that defies Doctor Frankenstein´s original intents.

It´s easy to see, it is there, it thrives and lives and CCP has only been able to scrape at its surface.

That is the only reason I have been playing and resubbing for this long since 2005. No other game has the framework that enabled a community of people to form a semi-coherent whole into this "Blasphemy".

Other games, and my own opinion ensues now, have failed in enabling a social wireframe so simple that made them able to recreate this monster. Most modern MMO design is based on fixed groundworks of social interaction, some of them having gone so far into this horrible path that the game could literally be played to "endgame" alone, with bots or with multiple accounts. They just restrict you by their very existence.

Eve has not such limitations, as the game can very well be played by not logging in at all. Yes, you would be better with multiple accounts, or yes, you could in a sense thrive by having a single account and just mining asteroids all day, but beneath and above all that, the Social Wireframe of EVE is limitless, as consequences play a big role.

Other games have notorious ways of knowing people (and some people here try to emulate such ways by having a Killboard death ratio for example, but they kinda miss what I am trying to imply). There are better geared, parsed or high output healer indicators in gaming.

The DPS game (that unfortunately breed the strange orphans of EFT Warriors, another strange reflection of outside sources) and perhaps the Ladder/Rank system.

But EVE is much more, no other game I know gives you the "POTENTIAL" to so surely defeat, crush, plot , kill, trade, fly, mine. steal or interact in a large scale that affects EVERYONE

Any T2 builder knows the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) implications of Moon Materials. Even the fully loaded DONT KILL ME CAREBEAR that just wants to pimp his ship with the latest Tek and just want to shoot red crosses all day in Hi Sec is fully impacted upon by this (and there are MANY) "threads" , as simple as Moon Materials.

There are many more threads that affect everyone. We are so deeply connected to each other, that the simple act of logging in and taking an infinitesimal part of CPU power off the servers will affect someone somewhere.

No other game has that besides strange who has a bigger Epeen KillDeathDPSHEALoutputShinySword indicators (that can be imported here yet are not the whole of what can truly be done inside this wicked deathmachine)

Once you go past that, you have this limitless consequence enabled "Sandbox" that is honestly the only appeal it has.

I just wish, that many of the ideas in SC could be implemented here. CCP needs not to tame the monster, but lead it to new paths. The potential in this game even after 10 years is HUGE, I mean it, HUGE.

I know several people who already has throw over a 1k dollar at this.

Over a 1k dollars spent on a game which isnt even out!?!?!?!!

Mind = blown